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RAFEngO74to09 22nd Jul 2017 23:51

USS Gerald R Ford - CVN 78 - Commissioned Today
 
USS Gerald R Ford- first of the class - was commissioned today.

Great coverage on TV here with a rousing speech from President Trump, a nice speech from President Ford's daughter (the ship's sponsor) and full coverage of the military part of the ceremony.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7u7FtnESM-Q&t=2918s



CO talking here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tn7EVSC8VRQ



Nice to see my taxes going towards something worthwhile these days - albeit my contribution was a pretty small part of $12.9 Billion !

sandiego89 23rd Jul 2017 16:47

Indeed, good coverage. On the down side, sounds like there is much work to be done- even more than all new ships require, especially with EMALS and many uncompleted spaces. Perhaps 4 years until first deployment, although I saw elsewhere this might be whittled down to 3 years if they defer the shock testing to the next hull (JFK).

SASless 23rd Jul 2017 17:22

More importantly....."Old Ironsides" leaves dry dock tonight after a period of upkeep.....launched originally in 1797 and is the oldest commissioned Warship afloat.

She will go alongside for some more restoration work before returning to duty.

http://www.navysite.de/ships/other-images/const_2.jpg

IcePaq 23rd Jul 2017 18:27

My sister just got back from a short cruise on the "eagle".

In the 80s, I bought a mazda RX-5 cosmo from a guy who had been a captain on it when it was called "horst wessel".

KiloB 23rd Jul 2017 19:18

Is CVN78 now the Worlds largest moving target?

dagenham 23rd Jul 2017 20:53

SASless indeed operative word being afloat... HMS Victory still commands the oldest commissioned warship title

Having been on both I am always amazed at the amount of work that goes into both to keep them in preserved condition and even more so the USS Constitution to keep here afloat

Interestingly her sister ship the USS Cheasapeake is in my village... and now makes up the floor of our flower mill.

sandiego89 23rd Jul 2017 21:07


Originally Posted by KiloB (Post 9839876)
Is CVN78 now the Worlds largest moving target?


IIRC the last carrier damaged in combat was @1945. How many sorties and combat sorties have been launched from carriers since then? Yes I realize there are many systems designed to take out a carrier, and things could get very nasty in a peer conflict, but I would hardly call carriers sitting ducks.

Planet Basher 23rd Jul 2017 21:21


Originally Posted by sandiego89 (Post 9839973)
IIRC the last carrier damaged in combat was @1945. How many sorties and combat sorties have been launched from carriers since then? Yes I realize there are many systems designed to take out a carrier, and things could get very nasty in a peer conflict, but I would hardly call carriers sitting ducks.

Correct me if I am wrong but is it easy not to get damaged if you spend most of that time attacking countries that don't have the means of reponding.:)

Rosevidney1 23rd Jul 2017 21:36

Planet Basher: Projection of power is the name of the game and we will be back to smite the bad boys, and provide assistance to friendly states in the foreseeable future, like we always have done. Will be bound to get involved with humanitarian aid as well.

PrivtPilotRadarTech 23rd Jul 2017 22:58


Originally Posted by sandiego89 (Post 9839973)
I would hardly call carriers sitting ducks.

You obviously weren't a submariner, in military aviation, or a missileer. If you were, you'd know that it's a giant, juicy, slow target.

RAFEngO74to09 23rd Jul 2017 23:13

Target ? Look at it this way - CVN 78 is likely to be much better protected than HMS Queen Elizabeth ever will be.

A US Carrier Strike Group would have at least 1 x Ticonderoga class AEGIS cruiser and 2 or 3 Arleigh Burke class destroyers (or even up to 6 if necessary). That lot easily out trumps (pun intended) a Type 45 - that's if the Type 45 can get out of port and doesn't have to go anywhere too hot ! (banter - I know there is an expensive plot to fix the issues but quantity and multiple defensive missile options have a quality all of their own).

Also, with the current President and SecDef, I don't think there would be any pussyfooting around if someone did attack a 7,500-person unit worth at least $35 Billion (including aircraft but not including the enormous additional cost of missiles on ships) - a significant deterrent effect.

http://i.imgur.com/3rlcMlB.jpg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ticonderoga-class_cruiser

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arleig...lass_destroyer

A US CSG is certainly much less of a target than a RAFG air base would have been had the Cold War gone hot and it has much better systems defending it !

TBM-Legend 23rd Jul 2017 23:23

Moving target = carrier surrounded by numerous moving body guards.
Fixed target = air base surrounded by air defence guards???

FODPlod 23rd Jul 2017 23:55


Originally Posted by Planet Basher (Post 9839983)
Correct me if I am wrong but is it easy not to get damaged if you spend most of that time attacking countries that don't have the means of reponding.:)


Originally Posted by Wiki
The September 2012 Camp Bastion raid was a Taliban raid on Camp Bastion in Afghanistan's Helmand province on the night of 14 September 2012.[1] The base hosted British, American and Tongan military personnel at the time of the attack. The Taliban fighters killed two U.S. Marines and destroyed or severely damaged eight U.S. Marine Corps AV-8B Harriers before the entire raiding force was killed or captured...

Imagine if it had been a country that did have "the means of responding".

SASless 24th Jul 2017 00:10

Don't forget the Attack Subs that tag along with every Carrier Strike Group playing sheep dog to the sheep dogs.

How well will the UK Carrier(s) be protected?

Assuming 1) they both get built.....2) they should ever deploy out of Home waters

Does the UK adhere to the NATO Strategy of the USN being responsible for Blue Water Ops and NATO (assuming that includes the RN) naval forces are responsible for Brown and Green water Ops?

Rhino power 24th Jul 2017 01:30


Originally Posted by SASless (Post 9840068)
How well will the UK Carrier(s) be protected?

Assuming 1) they both get built.....

Really? :rolleyes: One is already built (HMS Queen Elizabeth) and undergoing sea trials and the second (HMS Prince of Wales) is nearing completion...

-RP

West Coast 24th Jul 2017 02:07

More submarines have been sunk than aircraft carriers.

RAFEngO74to09 24th Jul 2017 04:08

A few more short videos:

CNO Adm Richardson interview + EMALS:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TmIGfs3zoU

Crew interviews / technology:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2id3jmwFopI

Captivep 24th Jul 2017 11:22

Didn't Trump "order" the USN to go back to steam catapults? Must be a more complicated subject than anyone knew...

Willard Whyte 24th Jul 2017 11:59


Originally Posted by dagenham (Post 9839966)
SASless indeed operative word being afloat... HMS Victory still commands the oldest commissioned warship title

Although there's nothing that can be achieved in HMS Victory that couldn't also be done in a portakabin...

SASless 24th Jul 2017 13:40

The US Navy lost an Aircraft Carrier to enemy action during the Vietnam War.....to Combat Swimmers.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/a0e00c0...commandos.html


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