Originally Posted by The Old Fat One (Post 9757441)

This is pretty much spot except as mentioned above this was completely common knowledge in the 70 late alone later. Many of the airframe issues came up during the ill rated AEW debacle (funny how often that fails to get a mention) and you can even roll back the lack of space issues to the 1960's comet v 707.

Military folk with decades of maritime experience, on the ground and in the air, were venting their frustrations about all of this in 1990's and as I've mentioned before, I, like many others, was ordered to "get with the programme" by the then staish.

I was at BAE on a course in May 1998 when a crew chief uncovered a previously unknown issue with the bomb doors. It was a headslap doh moment. Pretty funny really, except for the 3 billion plus tax payers money down the swanney and 10 years (maybe more?) with no kipper fleet.

Still well-played BAE Marketing Team...that was some stunt you pulled off there.

edit cross posting Haraka...answer yes, and they were all know and out in the open from the get-go.

Originally Posted by betty swallox (Post 9784884)

Hey Davef68.

Just wondering why you think the P-8A isn't designed to do "hard manoeuvring at low level"?