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Finningley Boy 17th Mar 2017 11:45

Torre Canyon 50th Anniversary
 
Chaps, events which took place 50 years ago tomorrow, 18 March 1967, resulted in RAF and Royal Navy Aircraft dropping ordnance, outside of training, within the European theatre for the first time since 1945. The Torre Canyon ran aground just West of Lands end. Buccaneers from then RNAS Lossiemouth and I believe Hunters from Chivenor and West Raynham, were employed to drop some 62,000lbs of explosives on the stricken vessel, while Cornish residents and the various authorities were kept busy trying to disperse the oils slick invasion along the coast. Never thought High performance Strike Attack aircraft would have been engaged in helping to clean up an environmental disaster!:ok:

FB:)

campbeex 17th Mar 2017 12:58

Didn't around of a quarter of the bombs dropped miss the target?

Also, "Torrey", not "Torre". :ok:

Fareastdriver 17th Mar 2017 13:07

One of them went straight through the funnel without exploding. I flew a recce party out there after a couple of attack waves. That was between flying barrels of detergent to the bottom of Cornish cliffs.

Haraka 17th Mar 2017 13:43

I went down to Newquay as a Sixth-former to help clean the seabirds of oil.

NutLoose 17th Mar 2017 14:29

I watched it on telly as my mum wouldn't let me out as I was only 8. :p

rolling20 17th Mar 2017 15:02

As a child, this was my first recollection of TV news. Watching the Bucs drop their bombs was fascinating to a young me. Only superseded by the Apollo moon landing a couple of years later.

Fareastdriver 17th Mar 2017 15:51

The full story.

Torrey Canyon oil spill: The day the sea turned black - BBC News

chevvron 17th Mar 2017 16:55

Went to Chivenor for camp in '69 and we were told some of the Hunter pilots were trained on the Sea Vixen specially for this op.

Wholigan 17th Mar 2017 18:28

"Didn't around of a quarter of the bombs dropped miss the target?"

You need to define "target". The "napalm" bombs were not dropped on the actual ship, but on the oil slick with the intention of setting fire to the oil. This was a failure, as the oil was actually "floating" below several inches of sea water. Thus, we produced a lot of steam but few flames, and those that were produced were extinguished by waves.

"some of the Hunter pilots were trained on the Sea Vixen specially for this op". I am prepared to be proved wrong, but I have no recollection of this and I would be spectacularly amazed if it happened. Most unlikely.

Fonsini 17th Mar 2017 18:43

Is the "napalm thing" a matter of official record now? I used to work with a Buccaneer rear seater who was medically discharged with a head injury and transferred to HM Customs who told me his aircraft was dropping napalm on the oil slick but they were told to keep it OpSec as the RAF was very sensitive about the availability and/or use of napalm.

On a side note - HM Customs would always take injured service personnel and former Northern Ireland police officers and give them jobs, so I worked with a lot of HM Forces personnel. The Bucc guy was a nice chap but his head injury was quite severe and he was always a little "off". His story was that he had ejected and during the subsequent sea rescue he swung under the helos undercarriage and was winched up into it (he never forgave himself for removing his helmet) his head injury was so severe that he suffered some brain damage.

rog747 17th Mar 2017 18:46

Easter hols 1967 we stayed right next to lizard lighthouse for a weeks holiday i was 10
watching all the activity in the air and on sea

could smell the oil on the sea spray all the coves nearby were affected housel bay cadgwith kynack mullion
weather that week was dismal

Haraka 17th Mar 2017 18:50

Spraying detergent onto the oil created another problem ; "chocolate mousse ".This destroyed the protection of the seabirds' naturally oiled feathers......

kenparry 17th Mar 2017 19:02


Went to Chivenor for camp in '69 and we were told some of the Hunter pilots were trained on the Sea Vixen specially for this op.
Don't think so. I was on 1(F)Sqn at the time; both 1 and 54 were involved, dropping napalm. I have no knowledge of any cross-training to the Vixen. The timescale was too short for that, only a few days start to finish. Not sure what the Chivenor sqns did, if anything. I think the 1 & 54 aircraft refuelled at Chivenor after their attacks, to fly back to base.

The Vixens from Yeovilton dropped HE bombs. The theory was that the HE would break open the ship, and the napalm would set the oil on fire. It did not work as expected, and, despite the huge columns of smoke, only relatively small amounts of oil were burned.

Onceapilot 17th Mar 2017 20:06

Quite a lot of flak about UXB's. Anyone able to tell about 1000lb fusing used? Differences between RAF/Navy fuses in that Op?

OAP

Pontius Navigator 17th Mar 2017 21:35

OAP, the Navy would have used Mk 10 IIRC which I think were fused on the side compared with RAF Mk 11 or 12, which both had N&T. One was cast and the other forged. I would guess cast iron was better for that job.

Regarding Napalm, I can confirm the RAF did not use Napalm. Instead they would have used liquefied petroleum jelly (I think it was called) :)

pmills575 18th Mar 2017 06:51

A large number of the Hunters from Chivenor were based at St. Mawgan for a few days. I clearly remember them lined up at the 26 end of the 26/08 runway. I also remember the armourers stirring large 45 gallon drums of something very volatile before loading it into drop tanks.

The techies in the radar servicing bay could easily detect the aircraft running into the drop area on the ASV 21 radar.

pm575

KiloB 18th Mar 2017 09:05

Just seen quite a good clip of a Sea Vixen making a bomb run on the ship on BBC.

diginagain 18th Mar 2017 09:09


Originally Posted by KiloB (Post 9710396)
Just seen quite a good clip of a Sea Vixen making a bomb run on the ship on BBC.

Does the clip still include footage clearly from the AMOCO CADIZ disaster?

Slow Biker 18th Mar 2017 14:48


Originally Posted by pmills575 (Post 9710302)
A large number of the Hunters from Chivenor were based at St. Mawgan for a few days. I clearly remember them lined up at the 26 end of the 26/08 runway. I also remember the armourers stirring large 45 gallon drums of something very volatile before loading it into drop tanks.

The techies in the radar servicing bay could easily detect the aircraft running into the drop area on the ASV 21 radar.

pm575

Yep, I was that armourer, only at West Raynham not Chivenor. I cannot remember the exact make-up of the 'napalm', only that it was fuel and what almost looked like sawdust. It was mixed in 45gal drums using a perforated lance connected to a compressed air bottle, then transferred to drop tanks. 50 years ago, no H&S, no PPE, just overalls. The fun bit was disposing of the surplus. The stuff was emptied into a shallow pit on the far side of the airfield and a 'Puff Powder' (a small muslin bag filled with gunpowder) connected to a length of safety fuze placed on top. The Oic ordered everyone back, "I'll deal with this" he said and lit the fuze with a long burning fuzee match - and then dropped the match into the pit! Fortunately it took several seconds to get going, then it was quite spectacular.

Finningley Boy 19th Mar 2017 03:31


Originally Posted by campbeex (Post 9709449)
Didn't around of a quarter of the bombs dropped miss the target?

Also, "Torrey", not "Torre". :ok:

Quite right to point it out sir, my missteak.:O

Phanks!:)


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