Arc - fair enough if you are happy with that mobility. However, the RAF seems to view 'permanent basing' as a necessary step for the future. I'd like to think based on thinking about the welfare of the personnel and therefore increasing their retention. Cynically, I'd say it was far more influenced by selling off housing (buy local if staying local) and reducing the number of stations overall...
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further development of Leeming would be a no-brainer? It would seem wise that a runway/airfield upgrade to be able to operate all RAF types |
OAP, the point I clearly failed to make was that the military airfield today has noticeable perimeter security weaknesses, especially when compared with a minor civilian airfield 50 years ago.
Additional security for assets operating inside an already secure civilian airfield should not be more expensive than a military airfield on its own. |
Originally Posted by Pontius Navigator
(Post 9712889)
OAP, the point I clearly failed to make was that the military airfield today has noticeable perimeter security weaknesses, especially when compared with a minor civilian airfield 50 years ago.
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The RAF, an organisation independent of PPrune, appear to have selected Lossie already according to an interview in the Specialist Aviation Press!
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Terry, we know that, see earlier comments about infra work. What you see here is the work of experienced sceptics well versed in the way of infrastructure works preceding closure and transfer to the Army and with a political mix including the wee Scot.
The life blood of pprune |
Originally Posted by trim it out
(Post 9712928)
An excellent example of such being Cranwell.
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Originally Posted by terry holloway
(Post 9712931)
The RAF, an organisation independent of PPrune, appear to have selected Lossie already according to an interview in the Specialist Aviation Press!
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Pontious, The point you are missing entirely is, that no one who knows much about security is going to say much on here! :rolleyes: If you, or anyone else, has security information or concerns I suggest you contact the Police, or your MP!
My general point is that a certain amount of concentration of assets can have benefits in the economy of scale in infrastructure and facilities. Of course, that can be taken to extremes but, the expansion of Leeming as the RAF Northern Base after Scotland leaves the Union, would make a lot of sense.:) OAP |
OAP, indeed. Having drawn the RAFP attention to the hole nothing was done as the risk was 'low' and more importantly there was no money.
At my own unit where I had different priorities I was able to get several security enhancements. It just seems that civil airport security attracts more media attention so they are more proactive plugging holes, and of course the threat of intrusion, while different, is higher. |
An excellent example of such being Cranwell. As indeed is Lossiemouth |
I seem to remember they tried to operate P8s out of Leeming a few years ago as part of a Joint Warrior but the ramps (or runway) wasn't able to take the weight of one, and they ended up operating out of Teeside/Durham.
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Bruggen?? :E
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OAP, surely a civil airport has better security? At an airfield near me there were holes in the wire and the runway ends are practically open. Back in the day Prestwich offered secure parking. I appreciate the key word is 'overt', but even so... |
At the risk of bringing some cold-hard logic to this fest:
Originally Posted by Martin the Martian
(Post 9712543)
Can't be Leeming. That must be earmarked for Lossie's Typhoons when Scotland goes indy.
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Originally Posted by Cyberhacker
(Post 9713974)
At the risk of bringing some cold-hard logic to this fest:
If/when Wee Jimmy gets her way, presumably (as part of the division of assets) some Tiffies will stay with Scotland? SNP to update defence policy (From HeraldScotland) |
Originally Posted by TorqueOfTheDevil
(Post 9712826)
Move the runway to an orientation that suits the prevailing wind? Or can the P-8 cope with big crosswinds?
I appreciate with all the bits and bobs hanging off a P-8, the answer maybe slightly different but it won't be by much. |
28kts crosswind limit.
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In fairness, that's a bit more than I thought.
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Keflavik :)
Might as well head to the Northern Lights :ok::mad:
us-navy-talks-use-icelands-keflavik-air-base-again cheers |
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