Originally Posted by muppetofthenorth
(Post 10948339)
There's a Halifax at Elvington, but it's nowhere near / never going to fly.
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With regard to the Trackers and others, how did radial engines take to (presumably) being whacked to full power upon touchdown, I thought they were very much averse to such treatment, or did they use a different technique?
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Sad to see a great ship go, but there was never any serious prospect of her being preserved.
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Originally Posted by ExAscoteer2
(Post 10948382)
It's also not a Halifax, but a 'bitsa', It poses as a MkIII, but the fuselage is actually from a MkII, with wings from a Hastings.
Which are the same wings, there is also the restored on at Trenton, that came out of the Norgie Lake, another two are located in the oggin they are trying to raise funding for and the Hendon one.... But as the RAF Museum appears to be planning another fire sale, lets hope it survives that! http://www.57rescuecanada.com/ If the Panton brothers had been allowed by their father to purchase the last derelict Halifax bomber instead of the currently undergoing rebuild to fligh Lancaster, who knows what might have come to pass. |
Originally Posted by NutLoose
(Post 10948446)
Which are the same wings
Originally Posted by NutLoose
(Post 10948446)
there is also the restored on at Trenton, that came out of the Norgie Lake
Originally Posted by NutLoose
(Post 10948446)
another two are located in the oggin
Originally Posted by NutLoose
(Post 10948446)
they are trying to raise funding for and the Hendon one.... But as the RAF Museum appears to be planning another fire sale, lets hope it survives that!
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They found the spars in a scappy on Malta they are planing to use on the raised one.
Canadian Halifax Project Seeks to Resurrect Planes, from Parts if Necessary | Warbirds News |
The old girl made the iTV news, some excellent footage.
https://www.itv.com/news/2020-12-15/...ioned-in-india |
Originally Posted by NutLoose
(Post 10948446)
Which are the same wings
(For the avoidance of doubt - the YAM Halibag replica does have Hastings wings which are not quite the same ie no wing root bomb cells present. Source: personal inspection, albeit last year. But, hey, a good looking replica is better than what preceded it - ie nothing! :)) |
Originally Posted by meleagertoo
(Post 10948433)
With regard to the Trackers and others, how did radial engines take to (presumably) being whacked to full power upon touchdown, I thought they were very much averse to such treatment, or did they use a different technique?
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
(Post 10948924)
Never seemed a problem during WW2 and quite often on smaller carriers, I would have thought gas turbines would be more susceptible to problems with Labyrinth seals
Full chat on touch-down only became SOP with the advent of the angled deck. Before that, if you missed a wire you ended up in the barrier! As MOGWI senior discovered. Although to be fair, his donk quit due to enemy action on short finals and he bounced off the round-down and started to disintegrate in the air before he hit the barrier. Mog |
Originally Posted by Whenurhappy
(Post 10948963)
Friable asbestos. Lovely.
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I saw it too and thought no it can’t be, no ones that stupid.
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
(Post 10949634)
I saw it too and thought no it can’t be, no ones that stupid.
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Originally Posted by Whenurhappy
(Post 10949735)
Clearly, they are...
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It makes you wonder the ethics in it all, the west using these places to scrap their ships while getting around the health and safety regs at home and scrapping on the cheap... against bringing work to much needed areas and supporting their families.
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Firstly this is not the west scrapping the ship - It is the Indian Government. Much of Viraat/Hermes steel is pre-nuclear and therefore more valuable than ordinary scrap steel.
Second thing is the law now requires western ship owners to scrap them in approved ship recycling facilities. There have been big fines for companies caught avoiding this. N |
Yep - Hermes was sold to India as a going concern (and quite a long time ago). Invincible and Illustrious were both scrapped in Turkey, where I should imagine the H&S and environmental regulations are more in line with our own.
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