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Blimey........
Originally Posted by MPN11
(Post 9701029)
Sadly, the infamous Jim Shortt* of AARSE fame never went to court.
* Apologies, that's James, Baron Castleshortt, [insert numerous bogus post-nominals] |
To an extent. I had personal threats from him on AARSE. Seriously deranged, but also dangerous.
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MPN
Did he threaten you with court action or something from the IBA? The only thing funnier than his farcical IBA courses is the fact the RAF hired him to teach their personnel :) |
Apologies.....
Originally Posted by MPN11
(Post 9701079)
To an extent. I had personal threats from him on AARSE. Seriously deranged, but also dangerous.
TN. |
He threatened the website and several individuals with legal action ... but did nothing. I've just had a nostalgic flick through some of the pages at https://www.arrse.co.uk/community/th...leshort.93251/
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I think I may have been in conversation with him in a Croydon pub one night a few years ago. The "gent" in question certainly looked very like the photos on ARRSE and he picked up on my conversation with a friend about the RAF (I was probably talking total bollocks!).
He then told us about his involvement with the local TA, teaching judo or some such, then got on to his time with the Paras followed by some unsubtle nods and winks towards a certain Herefordshire regiment. By this time I had him figured for a bull-****ter after a free pint, so drained mine and dragged my mate off to a different boozer! Two of my acquaintances in my regular are ex Paras and it would have been interesting to see what they made of him. |
Probably a nasty mess on the pavement outside the pub Treads
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Treadigraph.
The funniest thing is that his claim to have been in the SAS has enough truth (in his mind I suppose) for him to be able to embellish it ever so very very slightly ;) He was accepted for training in 21 SAS, but didnt get past holding, didnt complete basic training, trade training, get badged or serve in a Sqn :) Try looking him up on the UK paramedic register, or any other of his 'occupations' and you will see he appears on very few lists. |
Probably a nasty mess on the pavement outside the pub Treads A grain of truth, eh Barnstormer! |
Ah, there were so many Threads on Shortt, as the investigations went on. I think the main one went to Part III, aside from the one I linked above. It kept a fair few people busy and amused for quite a long time! Deconstructing all his false medals was a particularly interesting phase, as they were all revealed to be purchased cr@p :)
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I'm amazed nobody has passed comment on the second part of Tierneys CV - running operations at Brize before the age of 25!
FB |
"I covered the role of Duty Operations Controller..." could, of course, mean "... while he went to the loo".
Deconstructing CVs to reveal the truth at interview is enormous fun. The use of 'covered' should ring an automatic alarm bell. |
The ultimate Walt:-
A man sees a sign in a house window - 'Talking Dog For Sale.' He rings the doorbell, the owner appears and tells him the dog can be viewed in the back garden. The man sees a very nice looking black Labrador sitting there. "Do you really talk?" he asks the dog. "Yes," the Labrador replies. After recovering from the shock of hearing the dog talk, the man asks, "So, tell me your story." The Labrador looks up and says, "Well, I discovered that I could talk when I was pretty young. I wanted to help society, so I applied to join the SAS. In no time at all they had me jetting from country to country, sitting in rooms with spies and world leaders, because no one imagined that a dog would be eavesdropping. I was one of their most valuable spies for eight years". "But the jetting around really tired me out, and I knew I wasn't getting any younger so I decided to settle down. I signed up for a job at Heathrow Airport to do some undercover security work, wandering near suspicious characters and listening in. I uncovered some incredible dealings and was awarded several medals". "Then I got married, had a few puppies, and now I've just retired." The man is amazed. He goes back into the house and asks the owner how much he wants for the dog. "Ten quid," the owner says. "£10!!? But your dog is absolutely amazing! Why on earth are you selling him so cheaply?" "Because he's a lying bastard, he's never been out of the garden." |
hahahaha :D :D
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Lynham Lad
Thanks bud, that really tickled me:D:D:D STH |
Fournier Boy and MPN11 #91 & 92
Running Brize Operations before the age of 25 was possible, as after 2005 a couple of lady first tourists were Duty Operations Controllers. Between 1998 and 2012 there was nobody " Covering the Duty Operations Controller" Usually it would be the Ops Corporal covering for the minutes you were visiting Met or taking a natural break. Nobody called Tierney worked in Brize Ops between 1998 and 2012. |
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Awesome tale/tail!!!! Talking of Walts, someone mentioned earlier Costas Georgiou, aka Colonel Tony Callan and the Angola unpleasantness in 1976. It was John Banks and another Walt Leslie Aspin did the hiring for that mad adventure. I happened to meet Costas, Nick Hall (lived in Lincoln),Sammy Copeland (RSM who did the shooting at Maquala) Mick Wainhouse and Shotgun Charly Christodoulou, the original four mercs that went to Angola in 1975/76 at a wedding of a good Para friend in Lincolnshre. All mad as a box of frogs, but seemed like good guys at the time.Well they brought the beers!!! All members of 1Para all apart from Charly spent time in Colechester with dishonourable discharges. Went home to Louth Lincs for the millennium in 1999 New Years Eve in my old local bumped into John Banks....living in Gainsbourgh,free beer off him ,but Jeez, what a bull****ter, made Shortt look honest. My brother signed up with Banks but thought better of it after meeting him....:eek: |
someone mentioned earlier Costas Georgiou, aka Colonel Tony Callan and the Angola unpleasantness in 1976. It was John Banks |
Full story here on Wes Tierney - https://thewaltercumpershunterclub.w...esley-tierney/
Much, much, worse than I thought. A Walting Bloater and a common Tea Leaf to boot it would seem... |
Oh, an excellent exposé
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Damn, beat me to it!! Some of the content of that article that wasn't previously in the public domain will be heard in front of a judge within the next month, so I'm sure there will be much more coming out about this young chap!
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Sounds much like Robert Weaver a la the thread on another pprune story. I shake my head after 16800+ hrs of commercial helicopters how these Walts manage to last so long!!!!!:ugh:
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200lts of Avgas from the C421 then 80lts from the Saratoga. Nobody could work it out at the time |
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200lts of Avgas from the C421 then 80lts from the Saratoga. Nobody could work it out at the time
Originally Posted by NutLoose
(Post 9703348)
It isn't the theft of the fuel that is the main concern, light aircraft guages are notoriously inaccurate and it isn't possible to dip the tanks on everything, therefore someone loading the family knowing he filled it the night before might suddenly find himself over sh*t creek with no powered paddles.
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Originally Posted by UV
(Post 9703605)
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200lts of Avgas from the C421 then 80lts from the Saratoga. Nobody could work it out at the time Not relevant. See post #56 above. Long time before Tierney was at NW. The 80lts from the Saratoga was stolen between 17th May 2013 and 28th May 2013. When did Tierney take-up the position at NW? I wouldn't say, not relevant quite yet. |
Originally Posted by newfieboy
(Post 9703341)
Sounds much like Robert Weaver a la the thread on another pprune story. I shake my head after 16800+ hrs of commercial helicopters how these Walts manage to last so long!!!!!:ugh:
They went on to say that Tierney was gingers London,UK representative. I could see the funny side and took it as a wind-up, but who knows??? |
Tierney did indeed claim in writing on his CV to be a Ferry Pilot for Classic Wings. Classic Wings are aware of these claims. These claims are very false.
FB |
Originally Posted by Rallye Driver
(Post 9697798)
The allegation from the Flyer forum is also wrong. No one was sacked for stealing Avgas. Someone did resign for a separate, non-aviation related incident. That was several years ago, well before Tierney worked at the Airfield.
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Originally Posted by Tengah Type
(Post 9702183)
Fournier Boy and MPN11 #91 & 92
Running Brize Operations before the age of 25 was possible, as after 2005 a couple of lady first tourists were Duty Operations Controllers. Between 1998 and 2012 there was nobody " Covering the Duty Operations Controller" Usually it would be the Ops Corporal covering for the minutes you were visiting Met or taking a natural break. Nobody called Tierney worked in Brize Ops between 1998 and 2012. |
The ultimate Walt:- Quote: A man sees a sign in a house window - 'Talking Dog For Sale.' He rings the doorbell, the owner appears and tells him the dog can be viewed in the back garden. The man sees a very nice looking black Labrador sitting there. "Do you really talk?" he asks the dog. "Yes," the Labrador replies. After recovering from the shock of hearing the dog talk, the man asks, "So, tell me your story." The Labrador looks up and says, "Well, I discovered that I could talk when I was pretty young. I wanted to help society, so I applied to join the SAS. In no time at all they had me jetting from country to country, sitting in rooms with spies and world leaders, because no one imagined that a dog would be eavesdropping. I was one of their most valuable spies for eight years". "But the jetting around really tired me out, and I knew I wasn't getting any younger so I decided to settle down. I signed up for a job at Heathrow Airport to do some undercover security work, wandering near suspicious characters and listening in. I uncovered some incredible dealings and was awarded several medals". "Then I got married, had a few puppies, and now I've just retired." The man is amazed. He goes back into the house and asks the owner how much he wants for the dog. "Ten quid," the owner says. "£10!!? But your dog is absolutely amazing! Why on earth are you selling him so cheaply?" "Because he's a lying bastard, he's never been out of the garden." I know, I know - hat, coat, door... Thanks for making my dad's hernia a whole lot worse! |
Well I have found the EFDC North Weald Operations Manager job description advertisement, however, I cannot see any closing date.
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rc...2WaAhUEfh-OhQg When you're ready 'Rallye Driver' or 'UV'. |
According to his CV he started at North Weald in Aug 14 - however, seeing as his CV is riddled with lies then it isn't exactly safe to trust it! :hmm:
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That statement is correct
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That is disappointing. What that now effectively means is that the Avgas fuel thief is still at large at North Weald.
*Edit - Rallye Driver - what particular part of that statement do you agree with as being correct? |
Back in the mists of time, performing walkround of Varsity at Oakington for first flight of the day, discovered fuel drain panel unsecured. Rather grumpy QFI now delighted by Basil's attention to detail and off we go.
A couple of weeks later noted unfortunate airman was to be court-martialled for pilfering HM's Avgas. |
That he started at NWA as an Ops Officer in August 2014
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Just an update for those interested. Tierney is due back in court on the 12th April to answer theft charges, more to follow on the day...
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Yes, and I hope he is judged accordingly....
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So a Senior Officer making an informed decision based on the outcome of the Service Investigation into an accident that lead to the deaths of two young cadets is now an Idiot!! Your arrogance staggers me. I believe these types can only fly until age 65 nowadays too, leading to the loss of many very experienced AEF pilots when some idiot changed the rules. |
Tut tut
Originally Posted by tmmorris
(Post 9695825)
LJ VRT officers can hold acting paid rank when filling an established post in a rank higher than their substantive - that's very common indeed - and currently also acting unpaid Flt Lt after 9 years (though that is likely to be abolished). When relinquishing such a post they are usually granted permission to continue to use their acting rank, now unpaid. Again there are moves to stop the latter practice.
So, an ATC Sqn commander is likely to be A/Flt Lt/Pd; VGS commander would be Sqn Ldr, etc. Probably what you encountered was the current boss and his predecessor; but the second Sqn Ldr could also be holding a post elsewhere (wing staff or CCF contingent commander). Such a good organisation can be spoiled by these Walter types. If you want it that badly, go work hard for it like the rest of us had to do! Scary how it went unnoticed for quite so long! |
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