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bcgallacher 27th Feb 2017 21:28

Drone strike
 
An Al Qaeda leader was killed yesterday by a drone strike. Photographs exist showing a car with a large hole in the roof but the windows intact. Either there was a failure of the missile to explode or some kind of new weapon was used. Anyone have knowledge of this?

Lonewolf_50 27th Feb 2017 21:31

In what country did this occur?
Did someone roll the windows back up after the blast?
Could have been riding about with the windows down.


In other news, about a week and a half ago a car bomb went off in Baghdad and killed four of five dozen people. Doesn't seem to have made much news.

airpolice 27th Feb 2017 22:06

I googled "Who gives a fork" and it seems the answer is nobody.

bcgallacher 28th Feb 2017 03:26

Lonewolf - it appears to have taken place in Syria,there was no sign of an explosion,the rear window was intact. The damage was a large impact hole torn in the roof. The windshield was damaged inwards not outwards as you would expect.

Just This Once... 28th Feb 2017 06:28

Brimstone can leave the windows and most of the bodywork intact, as an example.

Small and carefully formed warheads that detonate a short distance from their target do produce rather different effects from that of a simple blast/frag impact fused weapon.

gr4techie 28th Feb 2017 10:39


Brimstone can leave the windows and most of the bodywork intact, as an example.

Small and carefully formed warheads that detonate a short distance from their target do produce rather different effects from that of a simple blast/frag impact fused weapon.
My understanding is that Brimstone / Hellfire was designed as an anti-tank shaped charge. Therefore focuses the "blast" forwards to create a molten jet that punctures a small hole through the armour.
Not a HE explosion that sends shrapnel or a concussion pressure wave out 360 degrees.

hoss183 28th Feb 2017 10:42

Quote article: "Baghdad Car Bomb Kills Scores in Shiite Neighborhood"

I know it looks a bit run-down with rubbish all over the place, but thats a bit unkind ;)

Herod 28th Feb 2017 12:39

If that picture, as published in the Times is correct, then Bloody H*ll. I knew the latest weapons were accurate, but I had no idea HOW accurate. Nasty man killed, no collateral damage whatsoever. Full marks.

Lonewolf_50 28th Feb 2017 13:07


Originally Posted by bcgallacher (Post 9690400)
Lonewolf - it appears to have taken place in Syria,there was no sign of an explosion,the rear window was intact. The damage was a large impact hole torn in the roof. The windshield was damaged inwards not outwards as you would expect.

Very interesting hit, and if a shaped charge perhaps a look at the bottom of the car might reveal a great big hole? Thanks for the alert, seems to have worked without killing any bystanders.

bcgallacher 28th Feb 2017 13:21

I think the drone just dropped a big rock on the car- £110,000 cheaper than a Brimstone!�� Seriously it will be interesting if we start seeing more air strikes like this,over the next while I will try to get images of similar drone strikes.

Davef68 28th Feb 2017 13:59

So the 'drone strike' bit comes from AQ sources, so it may have been from a manned platform.

hoss183 28th Feb 2017 14:26

Article for ref Drone strike through a car roof kills al-Qaeda second in command | World | The Times & The Sunday Times

I find it hard to believe that was ordinance. No blast damage, no fire or residue.

Roland Pulfrew 28th Feb 2017 14:32

Picture from the front of the car in the Telegraph

fleigle 28th Feb 2017 15:11

Obviously targeted by a Brit, as the strike is on the right hand side....:E:E:E
F

Lonewolf_50 28th Feb 2017 15:40

Obviously, if it was a strike by a rock/inert object it could not have been the USAF. They'd still be out at Nellis trying to refine the TTP before using this exotic new weapon.

Abu al-Khair al-Masri, is believed to have been born in Egypt under then name Abdullah Mohammed Rajab Abd al-Rahman
Most of his school mates just called him dull. :E

Davef68 28th Feb 2017 16:15


Originally Posted by hoss183 (Post 9691022)
Article for ref Drone strike through a car roof kills al-Qaeda second in command | World | The Times & The Sunday Times

I find it hard to believe that was ordinance. No blast damage, no fire or residue.

Like one of those murder mysteries where the weapon turns out to be a knife made of frozen blood!

jolihokistix 28th Feb 2017 16:20

Drone strike? Looks like something out of Robot Wars. As someone has said above, I wonder what the bottom of the car looks like.
Oh, and the road surface...

hoss183 28th Feb 2017 16:25

Actually it could be a drone strike - If the drone kamekase'd into the roof ;)

ORAC 28th Feb 2017 16:35

http://feeds.thetimes.co.uk/web/imag...,-0&resize=996

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/d...336f62EI5U.jpg

bingofuel 28th Feb 2017 16:55

Maybe it just went sideways into that tree and the Fire Service or their equivilent cut sections of the roof away to access the occupant to allow medical treatment and removal?


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