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Pontius Navigator 14th Feb 2017 06:51

Biggus, we had a flt cdr, a spec aircrew Sqn ldr who used to take frequent half days leave. There were reasons why this might have been necessary but we strongly suspected skiving and that he never reduced his annual leave total.

Perception definitely and we treated him accordingly.

MOSTAFA 14th Feb 2017 07:48

Everything looks really simple when you see it in a certain Swedish furniture warehouse - but; when you get it home and open the box!!!!!

Sadly, in what we have left of our Armed Services, well certainly in the Army, it won't make it past breakfast. Thats not because of attitudes its because of the very reason we have one.

downsizer 14th Feb 2017 08:02

Ironic that the people who will be least effected, those who are out, are the ones who are getting most tied up about this. I strongly suspect that a very small proportion of people will be interested due to the loss of income, and it will only work in certain posts or points in the readiness cycles. Plus the CoC can deny at any time.

Treble one 14th Feb 2017 08:33

QRA
 
Office hours only? Like the Swiss? :}:}:}

Pontius Navigator 14th Feb 2017 08:41

Treble One, now the truth can be told, after the Nott cuts, the UK AEW Force at Lossie only provided an AEW on QRA for 4 days a week - start work Monday to cease work Friday. If launched then there was no replacement until the following day.

Treble one 14th Feb 2017 08:43

So I wasn't safe asleep in my bed with the RAF watching for the potentially low level onrushing Russian hordes PN?

Pontius Navigator 14th Feb 2017 09:54

Tuesday to Thursday you were OK. I excepted Monday as it was not unknown for us to be scrambled (in a Shack!) 24 hours late.

Red Line Entry 14th Feb 2017 10:59

But at least you stayed airborne for a week - if only to transit to the target!

Pontius Navigator 14th Feb 2017 13:32

RLE, we had several abort options - running out of water, fuel (rations that is) and most critically an overflowing Elsan. On one occasion we had to make an emergency stop at Leuchars as we had run out of cups.

Shackman 14th Feb 2017 15:08

Just be thankful Boscombe dropped their (full) 400gal bomb bay fuel tank on the pan when they doing the AEW release to service trials (they were supposed to see how cleanly it would depart if jettisoned), so they never did it, and therefore remained off the RTS.
Interestingly, apparently it wasn't done for the MR either, but I did plenty of 14-18 hour sorties with one fitted. Different days, different rules!

Avtur 14th Feb 2017 18:05

When I first read this post, the first words I uttered to myself was FFS, what are they doing now. But having read on, and considered my own fortunate position of working from home, armed with 21 century communication tools, I think this idea has merits. If the ultimate goal is to recruit and retain, then I believe that looking at all alternative working methods/ TOS should be analysed. Actually, its very refreshing to see MoD thinking outside the normal box.

MPN11 14th Feb 2017 18:55

Further to my #56, I also know a handful of UK civilian mates who work from home much of the time, and visit 'the office' once a week for a day [or two].

It's not an impossible concept in some areas of activity. After all, isn't this what IT was supposed to enable?

Pontius Navigator 14th Feb 2017 19:06

MPN, my SinL worked from home when at the Ministry, perhaps one day or so a week, and while he didn't don uniform or slob around in PJs he did closet himself away in his study.

pontifex 15th Feb 2017 11:50

PN Re your long range Shack missions and the abort options. Having got you lot up to speed on prodding during Corporate, I was then asked to see if it could 24 hrs plus. There were no namby-pamby abort options. The result was horrific; it took months to get the smell out of my flying suit!

langleybaston 15th Feb 2017 20:15

Yes, working from home can indeed work, as it were.

My last stint was as P Met O Southern UK AND RAFG.

The latter was winding down. Modern comms; once a week to Waddington to read up/ catch up; once a month or so to visit a parish extending from Manston to Lyneham, once a quarter to BFG.

And a bit of gardening. I answered the phone to my boss in the bath once. "Strange acoustics" said he.

Pontius Navigator 15th Feb 2017 20:21

LB, not work by any stretch of the imagination and a Sunday to boot. A very hot day and relaxing in the pool. Sister in Law rang, would we like to go on cruise in the Caribbean?

The whole thing, from invitation, discussing, and booking, was done while we continued to sup some wine in the pool.

Working from home like that on a very hot summer day would certainly have attractions.

langleybaston 15th Feb 2017 20:28

Its a hard life but somebody has to do it.

I wonder where I went wrong?

Hangarshuffle 15th Feb 2017 21:18

See the thing is, as ever it was us and them. Its not easy, if you are usually front line, low rank and expendable. And also under educated, wrong class, colour or background. But always British. And of course all if that is always...comparable . I've lost the word now
But its always for our masters, never really ourselves.

Civvy street is easy man.


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