Britains new ships so noisy they can be detected 100 miles away
 

Now don't get me wrong but isn't the reasoning behind the shape of these things in the first place to make them stealthy????


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British warships are 'so noisy' Russian submarines can hear them 100 miles away


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now bar them being promoted to "battleships" and being spoken about in past tense, surely their purpose in life will be to protect the carrier fleets, so if you can detect and identify them, then the logical place the find them in wartime would be with the carriers.
Or am I and the MOD missing something here.

Its the usual round of daily mail hysteria promoted by long retired former officers with books to sell.

It caused guffaws among many of my former T45 mates when they read it.

And no doubt the attack sub crews as they sit at home on gardening leave waiting for something seaworthy to drive around in......

1. Type 45 is not designed for ASW.

2. How do other nations' warships and merchant vessels compare?

WEBF is correct - they're principally an anti-air assett - think of them as the final result of the Falklands War.

They are meant to be noisy. You pair a Type 45 AA frigate with a hush kitted AS frigate. While the boat's sonar operators are deafened by the 45, the AS tiptoes up behind them and sinks them. Simples.

It's 2017 we are living in, not 1940. Noise is "nice to have", but not the only factor to help detect and locate ships nowadays. Every serious military power now has a complete picture thru many hundreds miles away. So, let them scream and shout.

A Van, you might even have said 1960s for 1940 and 1970s for 2017.

PN,

As it's a chat, I exaggerate sometimes, yes. :-)

Nevertheless, in 70's USSR already had satellites and over-the-horizon radars. And though the technology improved in 40 years, physics-wise the principles remain the same.

It would have been a great comfort to them, being able to hear her coming.

I would have thought the rather large emitter on top makes it pretty 'noisy' and easy to find (clearly it can be turned off, but then it is just a ship, not an AD ship)...

As this thread touches on naval matters some reader might be able to direct me to any site where a simple but obscure naval equipment question may be posed and, with luck, answered. I live in hope.

Bernie - a couple of possibilities you could try. If you google "warships1" this will take you to a series of discussion boards, including one specifically on the RN but also other specific topics. As ever with such fora they are populated by a mixture of people who know what they're talking about and those that don't, but you might get lucky. Another option is the Defence Talk maritime forum, which has some fairly knowledgeable folk. Both require registration.

Frostchamber - Most grateful; will try both. Am not averse to posting the question here if desired, but it is off-topic.

You could also try the Royal Navy forum on ARRSE.

Not too difficult to find.... I think the boats will be found in the next dock along from the nuclear submarine dock. If you can't find that, have a look for a pair of big boats with a large flat deck, probably in the dock next door. ...If you see any aeroplane thingies, then somebody else's fleet is in town.

Failing that, the matelot equivalent could be a good shout.

https://www.navy-net.co.uk/community/

Of course this could just be mis-information designed to confuse the enemy, or a bit of bad journalism....

Hands up all those who have served in uniform if only even briefly on T45?
Er, me anyway.
Rumours were around years ago they were "noisy".
Saying that all ships are noisy, if not death traps exposed to the new generations of subs, mines, underwater stealth craft and smart weapons evolving for underwater application.
Next conflict will be an eye opener for the armchair admirals and an eye closer for the poor crews.

I suppose "noise" becomes an issue at sea.....so the RN should be quite safe.

Even the new Scottish Navy could find you lot while you are in Port.