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chinook240 20th Jan 2017 17:13

CIA Falklands Solution
 
The CIA planned to give the Falklands to Argentina if the country won the war against Britain over the islands, declassified CIA documents have revealed.

Brits living on the island were to be paid to leave and relocated to Scotland 'or elsewhere where conditions may be similar to the Falklands'. Anyone who opted to stay would become an Argentinian citizen, meanwhile.

http://www.forces.tv/06684174

Pontius Navigator 20th Jan 2017 18:02

The report is not quite true as giving the FI to Argentina was not in its gift. It was a peace plan and would have been funded by Arg/UK. Typical journalistic spin.

Mogwi 20th Jan 2017 18:12

Yup, back of a fag-packet suggestion by a low-grade operative with no in-depth appreciation of the problem - or of Maggie - or of our military prowess!

Lonewolf_50 20th Jan 2017 21:36

I hope you realize that if the Argentines had won that war that the Falklands (well, at that point Malvinas) would not have been the CIA's to give ... to anyone.
For that matter, they weren't the CIA's to give before that war either.


Suggest you apply some critical thinking to such claims and statements.

racedo 20th Jan 2017 22:11


For that matter, they weren't the CIA's to give before that war either.
Amazing that US with all their intelligence assets embedded in Argentinian military did not know about Argentina moving thousands of troops to FI.

Course RR was building up USN to I think was it a 400 ship Navy (could have been 500) at same time as Maggie T was flogging off RN to whomever would buy it.

Post FI Maggie T couldn't do enough for RR including Cruise missiles at Greenham Common. Always love coincidences.

Tankertrashnav 20th Jan 2017 22:20

It should be remembered that while the USA was outwardly remaining neutral, the limited UK supplies of aviation fuel on Ascension were quietly replenished by the USA from strategic stocks held there.

SASless 20th Jan 2017 22:34

By the way....it was a 600 Ship Navy we were building.

Granted there was no way we could afford to sustain such a fleet or man it with sailors who got to live on dirt with any regularity or length of time.:uhoh:

PersonFromPorlock 20th Jan 2017 23:27

What strikes my (American) eye is that it reads as though the author were British rather than American. Just an observation I don't want to make too much of.

India Four Two 20th Jan 2017 23:37


It should be remembered that while the USA was outwardly remaining neutral,
And they delivered AIM-9Ls

fleigle 21st Jan 2017 00:06

Meanwhile our "friends" the FFrench, delivered Exocets......:rolleyes::rolleyes:
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Fonsini 21st Jan 2017 02:19

The CIA has something of a credibility problem these days. Perhaps El Prez will defund them, that would be interesting :}

stilton 21st Jan 2017 05:01

Don't think that's right FG,

Thatcher was able to prevail on the French not to deliver any more Exocets after hostilities
started and incidentally, despite many attempts by the Argentinians to obtain more through
'other sources' these were cleverly defeated by UK intelligence, who prevented any more
acquisitions while taking many millions from the argies in several 'sting' operations.

Whenurhappy 21st Jan 2017 10:05

The decision to land by the Amphib task force was made very late in the day (about DDay-2). The British Defence Attache did report the build up of amphbious forces (preparing for an exercise), and this was noted in the UK, but time and distance meant that very little could be done, apart from the Naval Shore Party of RMs holding out to demonstrate UK resolve and intent.

Fonsini 21st Jan 2017 14:57

The revelations about us executing Argentinian prisoners came as a bit of a surprise, but then war is a nasty business.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...Falklands.html

ORAC 21st Jan 2017 15:31


By the way....it was a 600 Ship Navy we were building. Granted there was no way we could afford to sustain such a fleet or man it with sailors who got to live on dirt with any regularity or length of time.
Reagan Doctrine - "Rollback", the point wasn't to achieve the target, along with the other elements it was to bankrupt the USSR by making them to compete with an economy a tenth the size of California' s let alone that of the whole USA.

Which succeeded.

A useful reminder to Trump when facing up to Putin - and a warning when competing against China.

Reagan Doctrine - Conservapedia

Pontius Navigator 21st Jan 2017 15:37

Executing prisoners and killing soldiers attempting to surrender are two different things. Not right but different.

Then remember the Arg had killed two carrying a white flag.

West Coast 21st Jan 2017 16:25


Executing prisoners and killing soldiers attempting to surrender are two different things. Not right but different.
Distinction without difference.

MACH2NUMBER 21st Jan 2017 16:50

The USA should understand the Falklands Islander's issues. The real Islanders are hard, tough, self reliant people who believe in Democracy. They are very akin to many Americans who live in remote areas of the North-West. However, from previous very bad experiences, they distrust all politicians - a common theme across the World. They do love the Queen and the UK military, who provide a large degree of protection. They want this umbrella to continue. Maybe the new US president would understand.

air pig 21st Jan 2017 16:55

M2N, if I remember correctly, they complain if they don't see any low flying rather than the other way around.

MACH2NUMBER 21st Jan 2017 17:00

Quite Correct Air Pig. If they don't see us flying around, they fear we have gone away!


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