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orionsbelt 14th Jan 2017 07:29

Royal Thai Air Force JAS 39 Griffin lost
 
Gripen Fighter Jet Crashes at Hat Yai Air Show, Pilot Killed - Southern Thailand Forum - Thailand Forum

Gripen jet crashes during air show, pilot killed | Bangkok Post: news

Reports from Thai News
Sad news

Kulverstukas 14th Jan 2017 09:28


glad rag 14th Jan 2017 14:21

I'm sure more learned minds than mine will be able to figure out what he was trying to do........no further comment necessary...

Kulverstukas 14th Jan 2017 17:28

And this is first life lost in ~30 years on type.

Flap62 14th Jan 2017 18:40

Another barrel roll type manoeuvre - so many times it goes wrong, why bother?

3wheels 14th Jan 2017 20:20

Be interesting to know what experience Thailand has with regard to Airshows.
Do they have the equivalent of DA's? What experience are the crews required to have....etc...etc..

Fonsini 14th Jan 2017 22:04

Always makes me feel sick. Young FJ pilots shouldn't still be dying at airshows with all the ground avoidance technology we have at our disposal these days.

Rest in peace.

Jaysi 15th Jan 2017 07:51

Looks very much like G-LOC to me.

Lima Juliet 15th Jan 2017 08:06

Looks like another loaded roll to me. Very sad and if it is then we have seen this so many times - it is such an unforgiving manoeuvre if you let the nose bury. Here is a Harvard doing the same thing at slower speed. Tragic.


orionsbelt 15th Jan 2017 10:00

Observation of Videos
 
I hate making observations of event such as this, however if you view the first link I posted in full screen slowly you will observe at time 02 seconds a puff of what looks like smoke when the A/C is just left of centre of the rotor head. Additionally there seems to be other events at time 04 seconds, 05 seconds and 06 seconds.
I hope that somebody can on pass this comment to the Royal Thai Airforce.
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Kulverstukas 15th Jan 2017 10:16


Additionally there seems to be other events at time 04 seconds, 05 seconds and 06 seconds.
https://www.facebook.com/ThaiVisaNew...5715606763012/

But on the second video in this thread we don't see this events but vortex from the starboard wing. So it's may be "event" or it may be just compression artifacts of poor mobile video codek.

malabo 16th Jan 2017 05:38

Nothing wrong with the airplane. Pooched a vanilla roll. I wouldn't beat up on the fact it was Thai - they'd have a long way to go to catch up to the senseless carnage of US and UK military airshows.

Just This Once... 16th Jan 2017 09:35


Originally Posted by Leon Jabachjabicz (Post 9641324)
Looks like another loaded roll to me. Very sad....

It does seem so but I am sure more will come from the investigation.

What is certain is that most punters on the ground would not recognise a loaded roll from a benign unloaded one. Over the years I have come to wonder if the risk vs reward in such manoeuvres is appropriate for display flying.

Thoughts with this chap's family.

ZFT 16th Jan 2017 10:24


Nothing wrong with the airplane.
Impressive. Amazing what some experts can deduce from a few seconds of home video.


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