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The Old Fat One 9th Jan 2018 12:26


...and no the P-8 was never under threat.
Perhaps the P8 remains on schedule might be a little less susceptible to the foibles of fate and circumstance ??? :):)

Given the UK departure down the road less traveled, I would have thought pretty much anything the Government spends its (our?) money on just now is under some sort of threat.

I hear on good authority the PM has swapped out the chocolate hobnobs for Lidl's own brand rich tea at cabinet meetings these days.

Frostchamber 9th Jan 2018 14:04

Yes depending on your personal preferences, any given item on order is likely to be cancelled or, if already delivered, sold off, or in the unlikely event that we get to keep it, it will be ****e. And we're all going to hell in a handcart.

Perhaps we should simply post that on a repeating loop as the standard response for anyone trying to access the mil board.

The Old Fat One 9th Jan 2018 14:09

get out of bed on the wrong side did we....or did you just miss the smileys?

:):):):):):):):):):):):):):):)

Lonewolf_50 9th Jan 2018 14:21


Originally Posted by Frostchamber (Post 10015158)
Yes depending on your personal preferences, any given item on order is likely to be cancelled or, if already delivered, sold off, or in the unlikely event that we get to keep it, it will be ****e. And we're all going to hell in a handcart.

Perhaps we should simply post that on a repeating loop as the standard response for anyone trying to access the mil board.

Over the course of my military career most of the stuff I flew was procured under minimum bid. :p We can all feel that one, can't we? :cool:

I am going to stick my neck out, TOFO, and stand by my original point, understanding all caveats regarding "we woke up today to a new political reality, and you won't be getting that kit that we've spent billions upon" such as Comanche or P-8's Predecessor as the "New MPA" ... the P-7/LRAACA. (Had a few friends who worked on that program, and who were there when the axe fell).


The program was finally cancelled by the DAB at the end of 1990, on the grounds that it had fallen behind schedule, which called for the two prototypes to be delivered in 1992. Some 123 production P-7As had been planned. This decision left the Navy without a program to replace its aging P-3 aircraft. The Boeing Update IV avionics upgrade, an important element of the P-7A, was initially to have been applied to 109 earlier US Navy P-3Cs, but in 1992 this work was also cancelled. The British Nimrod MR2P was to have been replaced by the P-7A, but cancellation of that program forced the British Ministry of Defence to issue requirement SR(A)420 for a replacement maritime patrol aircraft (RMPA).
P-8 seems to have gotten past the major stumbling blocks.

Frostchamber 9th Jan 2018 14:23


Originally Posted by The Old Fat One (Post 10015162)
get out of bed on the wrong side did we....or did you just miss the smileys?

:):):):):):):):):):):):):):):)


Both. Sometimes the Eeyore / Private Frazer tendency on here gets a bit overwhelming. I am also full of cold which doesn't help. Hope to be back to my usual zen self soon.

The Old Fat One 13th Jan 2018 08:23


I am going to stick my neck out, TOFO, and stand by my original point
Emotionally I'm 100% with you; rationally probably about 75%. It's just that I've come to adopt a survivors mentality recently. Given the incomprehensible nature of the modern political world, it seems to me the only certainty is uncertainty and it is a good idea to condition one's self (both mentally and pragmatically) to expect the unexpected.

Maybe in my dotage I'm harping back to my boyscout days...Be Prepared...:)


I am also full of cold which doesn't help
Plenty of vitamin C...you'll be zenning it up in the gym in no time.;)

Heathrow Harry 13th Jan 2018 09:21

On the bright side the P-8's didn't feature in any of the options for cuts detailed in yesterday's "Times"

Suggests a modicum of sense has crept in - or maybe it's just embarrassment at having to borrow cover from our allies............

Biggus 14th Jan 2018 15:50

Didn't some seedcorn personnel originally go to Commonwealth countries like Canada, Australia and New Zealand, when the aim was to keep MPA skills alive rather than specifically learn how to operate the P-8?

If so, are they still there, did they come home, or have they been assimilated by the host nation?


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