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Lonewolf_50 5th Dec 2016 22:27


Originally Posted by NoHoverstop (Post 9600075)
Sounds like Fish-head pedantry to me, rather then universal naval pedantry. "Call it a boat. It annoys the Fish-heads", was the advice I was given.

Given that the T-45 pilot hopefuls still refer to "hitting the boat for the first time" that slang has not changed on this side of the Atlantic. Likewise with initial DLQ's for the rotary wing folks.
Given that the land based flyers seem to have no end of needle to offer naval aviators, I'm a bit surprised to see your inability to accept any of it coming the other way ... did you notice the smiley face in my initial query to Wetstart? If you're not careful, you may begin to confirm Sharkey's complaints about the RAF. :eek: Can't have that on PPRuNe, eh? (And I'll buy the next pint ...)

SpazSinbad 6th Dec 2016 00:07

Adding to 'Basil' post on previous page: A4Gs on O Boats [Old Oberon Class Submarine - RAN Slang]

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...M.gif~original

SpazSinbad 6th Dec 2016 01:00

:-) Hope for some (retarded nasal radiators)...
https://news.usni.org/2016/12/05/sec...afe#more-22726

"...The two crashes show potentially weaknesses in their naval aviation enterprise. The MiG crash – if it did result from the fighter running out of fuel – illustrates Russian naval aviation doesn’t have an organic aerial refueling capability. The Russians also have historically had a shortage of qualified aviators.

A new Russian naval aviation training facility that was set to open in 2015 is still not operational. To make up some of the difference, Russians have used retired naval aviators to fill in gaps in personnel.

“A few years ago there were stories they were largely contractors as pilots,” Eric Wertheim — naval analyst and author of U.S. Naval Institute’s Combat Fleets of the World — told USNI News on last month. “They’ve been trying to pass that skill on but there’s not the ability to do that because the pool is small and they’re not a lot of facilities available.”..."

Lonewolf_50 6th Dec 2016 02:29


Originally Posted by SpazSinbad (Post 9600175)
The Russians also have historically had a shortage of qualified aviators. A new Russian naval aviation training facility that was set to open in 2015 is still not operational. To make up some of the difference, Russians have used retired naval aviators to fill in gaps in personnel.

Uh, I never got the memo, nor a job offer. For the right amount of vodka and access to the bevy of beauties in that land, I think the Terms of Reference could have been agreed, and their paying my way through the Monterey DLI Russian course would have closed the deal.

But, they never called. :p

Wensleydale 6th Dec 2016 09:26


I was once advised that "a ship can carry a boat, but a boat can't carry a ship" as a way to remember the distinction.

LW - in that case.....


http://www.shipspotting.com/photos/m.../3/9/89935.jpg

sitigeltfel 6th Dec 2016 10:17


Originally Posted by Lonewolf_50 (Post 9599798)
Wetstart, how do you feel about landing on ships? :)

/Naval terminology pedantry mode off

Like this one? ;)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alraigo_incident


Wetstart Dryrun 6th Dec 2016 11:30

I'm sorry the nuances went over my dozy head.

Just to clarify, I don't like boats with oars, boats with sails, boats that take you cruising or grey boats the navy keep at Portsmouth.

I like naval aviators, especially having been involved in Harrier conversions for a good many some 35 years ago. They organise good parties.

An into wind decel and VL is the gentleman's way to arrive, even if it is on a bloody ship or boat or through-deck cruiser or aircraft carrier (opening shortly).... Got to beat some rodeo cable-catching eyeball popping business.

Basil 7th Dec 2016 09:19


Originally Posted by tartare (Post 9599976)
Where did that sketch come from Basil?
Cripes - a few shock loaded engines in that clip Spaz posted...

EDIT: Ah - I see - an image on Google.
Interesting to read about DARPA's Project Hydra

I think I googood something like submarine aircraft carriers and there it was.
Don't submariners (esp US) refer to them as 'boats'?

Basil 7th Dec 2016 09:28


They organise good parties.
As many have discovered in RN wardrooms :yuk:;)

We DID once get our own back on the Lt Cdr who visited us in the crew hotel the following evening :ok:


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