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wannabe_whirly 6th Oct 2016 12:31

A400M over the West Midlands?
 
Hello folks, One day earlier this week I thought I saw a A400M doing flybys over Herefordshire, in particular close to the Pontrilas camp. Did anyone else see this?

TEEEJ 6th Oct 2016 19:59

Some movements on the following.

https://twitter.com/70SqnA400M

A recent low level through the Usk Valley.


airborne_artist 6th Oct 2016 21:49

Trialing the Fulton recovery system so as to be able to recover the hooligans from locations not accessible by rotary CSAR I will wager :ok::ok:

TorqueOfTheDevil 11th Oct 2016 06:57


A400M doing flybys over Herefordshire
Downwind in the Brize circuit?

Davef68 11th Oct 2016 12:01

Atlases have been very quiet of late - just one or two up and about.

falcon12 11th Oct 2016 12:10

For the last two days one has been pounding the circuit at EXT.

uffington sb 11th Oct 2016 13:39

I didn't know that they could stay for so long:E

charliegolf 11th Oct 2016 14:34

I had the pleasure here at Richard Burtonville a couple of days or so back.

Oh, and I saw a big arsed 'plane go over too!

TEEEJ 5th Jan 2017 16:33

RAF A400M through the Mach Loop - 5th January 2017.


Lyneham Lad 5th Jan 2017 17:04

They certainly have a distinctive aural footprint. Watched one flying N over W/Bassett mid-afternoon today, presumably heading back to BZN for tea ;) No mistaking that sound.

safetypee 5th Jan 2017 17:47

Another one over the land behind the Malvern Hills (4th Jan). Lovely clear blue day witnessed a good GH workout, almost to the point of being 'sporty', but the steep level turns did not progress to wingovers! Shame.

KPax 5th Jan 2017 18:50

BDN62 (Gauntlet 62) has been floating around for the past couple of days including, Warton circuits.

pendrifter 6th Jan 2017 14:16

One over Newquay area this morning about 10.15.
Glimpse through the low cloud as went from Newquay airport towards St. Austell and all went quiet. Few minutes later overhead again same route but cloud to low to see.
Some months ago spied one doing several touch and goes at Newquay.
Is that something regular?

TEEEJ 6th Jan 2017 17:30

Footage from the western side of the Talyllyn Pass 5 January 2017.


Lyneham Lad 6th Jan 2017 17:38


Footage from the western side of the Talyllyn Pass 5 January 2017.
Thanks for the footage. Quite a large shadow at the 1.50 to 2.00 minute mark as it banks round. Those a lot cleverer than me could probably give a reasonable guesstimate of its altitude.

VX275 7th Jan 2017 08:42

The original Spec called for this sort of thing to be flown by the autopilot.

Wee Weasley Welshman 7th Jan 2017 22:24

It definitely sounds 'odd'. When under a bit of 'load' there's a hint of RR Dart to it I think.

Does it have an informal service nickname yet?


WWW

Ken Scott 8th Jan 2017 19:40

Grizzly? Fatlass?

BEagle 8th Jan 2017 19:51


Grizzly? Fatlass?
It sounds like you might have known the 'Money Monster' at Marham...:hmm:

steamchicken 9th Jan 2017 09:16


Originally Posted by Lyneham Lad (Post 9632345)
Thanks for the footage. Quite a large shadow at the 1.50 to 2.00 minute mark as it banks round. Those a lot cleverer than me could probably give a reasonable guesstimate of its altitude.

About 1.8x the apparent (foreshortened) wingspan, counting the pixels. Wingspan is given as 139ft 1in in open sources. 1.8*139 = 250.2ft.

Analyst comment: note that the a/c might be further away from the camera in the z-axis than is apparent, over the lower ground rather than the ridge. The apparent wingspan is foreshortened by the bank. Both of these might lead to an underestimate of its height over the ground.

Open sources show that the LFA 7(T) was active on 5th January, permitting low flying down to 100ft for operational training. When the LFA is not active, the lower limit is reported to be 250ft. We assess that the British are progressively building up the A400M tactical role capability; on this occasion they respected the higher 250ft limit although LFA regulations permitted them to go lower. Operating below 250ft in the active LFA would be an indicator of greater confidence in the aircraft and its systems, although the fact that the limit was observed with a high degree of precision (less than 1 per cent) implies they are making progress.


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