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New RAF Trainer
Gallery at following link showing Embraer Phenom, serial ZM333. The Phenom will replace the King Air at RAF Cranwell.
EMBRAER PHENOM 100 - THE PHENOM - Affinity Flying Training Services |
What's happening to the Tucano's then? It seems odd to add another type if they are staying.
We have a couple of Phenom based here and they look a bit "Tinny" so I will be interested to see how well they stand up to military use compared to the King Airs. I note the Grobs are the Turbo Prop versions, bang seats and all. https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...rocket-352414/ The training aircraft will be the Grob G 120TP ‘Prefect’ for elementary flying training, the Beechcraft ‘Texan’ T-6C for basic flying training and the Embraer ‘Phenom’ 100 for multi-engine pilot training. Thirty-eight modern, glass cockpit aircraft will be delivered in a phased approach over the next three years comprising 23 Grob G 120TP ‘Prefects’, 10 Beechcraft ‘Texan’ T-6Cs s and 5 Embraer ‘Phenom’ 100 jets – all featuring digital cockpits, exposing students at an early stage to the technologies they will rely on at the operational level. http://www.affinityfts.co.uk/affinit...istry-defence/ |
If you have tears, prepare to shed them now....
END OF AN ERA Nutloose, ... exposing students at an early stage to the technologies they will rely on at the operational level... Danny......:{ |
I find it interesting they intend to use a jet for multi engine training. Are the majority of the RAF large multi engine aircraft not still turboprops, ie Atlas and C130. I would suggest it easier to transition a turboprop trained pilot to a jet than vice versa.
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I find it interesting they intend to use a jet for multi engine training. Are the majority of the RAF large multi engine aircraft not still turboprops, ie Atlas and C130. I would suggest it easier to transition a turboprop trained pilot to a jet than vice versa. |
Makes it easier to get your licences at an early stage so you can build up your experience for the airlines.
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http://ukarmedforcescommentary.blogs pot.co.uk/p/uk-military-flying-training-system.html
Remove the gap between blogs and pot |
Originally Posted by bingofuel
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I find it interesting they intend to use a jet for multi engine training. Are the majority of the RAF large multi engine aircraft not still turboprops, ie Atlas and C130. I would suggest it easier to transition a turboprop trained pilot to a jet than vice versa.
PS First Grob in build here: http://www.affinityfts.co.uk/wp-cont...P-in-build.jpg |
That M.17 bang seat is an amazing looking piece of kit - so small compared to its ancestors!
Could do with one of those in the 152... ...actually the 152 could do with a tiny turboprop and one of those five bladed props as well... |
Is the 'prefect' actually getting the bang seat? I heard a vicious rumour it was coming sans bang/oxygen, though it was only a rumour.
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Should have kept a couple of Canberra T4s for asymetric training..............
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If you read the link I posted the helicopter one is also coming up with different types in the offing.
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H135/H145 Juno/Jupiter - the first one flew last week
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Is its serviceability any better, from what I have heard 30% is not good enough.
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
(Post 9475160)
If you read the link I posted the helicopter one is also coming up with different types in the offing.
http://www.pprune.org/military-aviat...elected-2.html |
Originally Posted by Davef68
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H135/H145 Juno/Jupiter - the first one flew last week
(photos courtesy of AH) cheers http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...psiqzzbyth.jpg http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ps3bpx5y0x.jpg |
Originally Posted by pba_target
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Is the 'prefect' actually getting the bang seat? I heard a vicious rumour it was coming sans bang/oxygen, though it was only a rumour.
Oxygen and air conditioning in a glass cockpit TP capable of ops well above 10,000 would have been nice though. But don't worry, I'm sure Grob gave the MOD/Ascent/Affinity a nice discount on the price by asking to remove the systems from the original configuration. Every penny helps... |
But don't worry, I'm sure Grob gave the MOD/Ascent/Affinity a nice discount on the price by asking to remove the systems from the original configuration. Every penny helps... |
As it would probably involve a certain amount of redesign work to accommodate the RAF, you might find the savings were / are pitiful, remember the fiasco over the Typhoons gun, where it was cheaper to simply fit it but not at the time use it, rather than design and build a ballast system to replace it.
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remember the fiasco over the Typhoons gun, where it was cheaper to simply fit it but not at the time use it, rather than design and build a ballast system to replace it. |
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