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scout 9th Aug 2016 15:40

Safe?...Good!

KPax 9th Aug 2016 15:45

I assume the SI will be run by DHFS rather than Valley, some Shawbury studes might be looking at Crash Guard tonight.

2Planks 9th Aug 2016 15:46

More pics from the BBC:
RAF helicopter fire on Snowdonia peak after technical issue - BBC News


The third one down shows its not going to 'buff out', just a Chinny lift to the scrappies.


Well done to the team, a decision well made and well executed. Hopefully, they will all get to the bar tonight at Valley to reflect on a job well done.

NutLoose 9th Aug 2016 16:01

So that'll be 5 main rotor blades, 7 long range fuel tanks, 18 strops, 4 winches and a multitude of other smaller items written off inventory then :p

Glad everyone is OK and as for buffing out, granite is pretty resilient and a good rain shower and you will never know it was ever there.:O

I hope they were able to drum up enough cash between them to get the train back down the mountain, or some marshmallows to toast. :E

Taff Missed 9th Aug 2016 17:06

Engine snags!
 
"Forced landing due to eng snags".

Must have been pretty serious engine snags to cause it to catch fire and burn out. There's two engine fire bottles plus the cabin bottles.

KPax 9th Aug 2016 17:30

RAF helicopter fire on Snowdonia peak after technical issue - BBC News

Lonewolf_50 9th Aug 2016 17:37

The news report/MOD says "five" but this picture shows six.
EDIT: BBC news link was updated, so question answered, thanks all.

Tashengurt 9th Aug 2016 17:40

Doesn't look like they'll need anything as big as a Chinook to get the remains off.

crablab 9th Aug 2016 17:41

News from 'on the ground' (Welsh friend) is it's a Cobham Helicopter Services chopper contracted by the MOD.

Wrathmonk 9th Aug 2016 18:02

Lonewolf_50

From the BBC link...


The MoD said five people - four military and one civilian - were on the helicopter at the time, while another person involved in the training exercise was already on the mountain.

It said the exercise involved the helicopter picking people up and putting them back down.

serf 9th Aug 2016 18:07

Didn't see them carrying bags.....

airsound 9th Aug 2016 18:40

Lonewolf, crablab, Wrathmonk

There were 4 mil peeps onboard + one Cobham. There was one other on the ground.

It was indeed a Cobham Helo Services cab, like all the Griffins.

There will be an SI, rather than a civil inquiry, according to the RAF.

Nobody (neither RAF nor Cobham) seemed to know whether there was an FDR/CVR on board

airsound

Davef68 10th Aug 2016 11:32


Originally Posted by airsound (Post 9468445)
There will be an SI, rather than a civil inquiry, according to the RAF.

airsound

Makes sense, the aircraft is operated on the military register.

As for lifting the remains off, looks like you could do it with another Griffin! :-)

NutLoose 10th Aug 2016 11:35

http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cps...ashsitepic.jpg

From Beeb site

MPN11 10th Aug 2016 11:40

Deffo Cat 5. :(

Still, easier to replace an airframe than the people, so still a 'good' result.

Martin the Martian 10th Aug 2016 12:13

At least the crew didn't have to worry about getting a fire started to keep warm. And with a pall of smoke rising from the top, it probably didn't take long to find them either.

Though I do agree that recovery of the wreckage will be an interesting one for the crash'n smash team.

Onceapilot 10th Aug 2016 12:13

Just pleased there seems to have been no injuries. :)

OAP

Lyneham Lad 10th Aug 2016 12:23

Be interesting to read what the root cause of what seems to have been a sudden and intense conflagration that the on-board extinguishers could not deal with.

Good to read that no-one was harmed.

NutLoose 10th Aug 2016 16:15

http://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/624/c...9_wreckage.jpg

http://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/624/c..._wreckage2.jpg

More on the Beeb site from the Llanberis Mountain Rescue

I don't envy them trying to figure out the root cause from that.

oldbeefer 10th Aug 2016 17:03

NutLoose - i guess the crew reports will give a pretty good idea?


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