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midsomerjambo 7th Jul 2016 07:43

F4s Over Cheltenham Yesterday?
 
OK, I know that sounds a bit silly, but sitting at my desk I heard a some fairly loud jet noise yesterday afternoon and popped out of the office (at an aerospace company in Bishops Cleeve) to see what it was. I saw a couple of aircraft one of which was I think a King Air at around 5,000' (maybe higher). The other looked to my (admittedly far from perfect) eyes like an F-4. They flew over slowly in a loose formation in the direction of Staverton airport then did a 180 and were joined from the east by another 3 aircraft, 2 of which looked like Hawks and the other which appeared to be another F-4. All 5 then departed in the rough direction of Brize. Did I dream this or can anyone shed any light on it?

Regards, MSJ

Jumping_Jack 7th Jul 2016 07:51

A Greek F4 is due at RIAT this year so your eyes may have been correct!

Planet Basher 7th Jul 2016 07:51

RIAT, F4 is I believe Greek.

I'm off there shortly to help with traffic control.

Evanelpus 7th Jul 2016 08:25

You were cheated, there should have been 2 of them, both bound for Fairford!

I believe the support aircraft went to Brize.

midsomerjambo 7th Jul 2016 08:29

Ahhh...I must admit I really thought my eyes deceived me as I didn't realise there were any still in service but it turns out there are still quite a few (Greece, Turkey, Japan, Iran, S. Korea). You can't keep a good aircraft down ;)

Rhino power 7th Jul 2016 10:10


Originally Posted by midsomerjambo (Post 9432327)
I didn't realise there were any still in service but it turns out there are still quite a few (Greece, Turkey, Japan, Iran, S. Korea). You can't keep a good aircraft down ;)

Don't forget the USAF... ;)

-RP

collbar 7th Jul 2016 10:19

there was 2 mighty tombs in the sky!!!

ahh the memories!!!

I assume they were descending into Fairford... thought I saw a C-130 with them too!

hoss183 7th Jul 2016 10:52

Are we talking about Viet'nam or Chelt'nam ? ;)

Melchett01 7th Jul 2016 11:20


Originally Posted by Rhino power (Post 9432380)
Don't forget the USAF... ;)

-RP

I forget which magazine I saw it in, browsing whilst in a queue at WH Smiths very recently, but there's quite a good article on the last USAF F4 sqn, 82 Target Sqn IIRC. Looked quite an interesting read, especially as it seemed to suggest these are now flown as single seaters.

midsomerjambo 7th Jul 2016 12:02

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/82d_Ae...rgets_Squadron

Rhino power 7th Jul 2016 12:10

21 QF-4E's left at Holloman AFB, all belong to the 82nd ATRS/53rd WEG, only around 8 or 9 are now used for manned ops, the rest are all pure drones. They are scheduled to finish in December this year, assuming that the 'Zombie Viper' QF-16's are up to speed, but I understand there is still some teething problems with the QF-16's, so who knows, maybe they'll soldier on for a short while longer...

-RP

Martin the Martian 7th Jul 2016 12:15

Two Greek F-4Es touched down at Fairford yesterday.

RAFEngO74to09 7th Jul 2016 15:29

Greek AF Phantoms arriving at RIAT 2016:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXEgP5KsKJE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OwtVpV4mvM

gr4techie 8th Jul 2016 07:20

Until I saw these videos I never knew some F-16s had conformal tanks above the fuselage. Learn something new every day.

Wageslave 8th Jul 2016 08:51


there was 2 mighty tombs in the sky!!!
For the sake of their crews I sincerely hope you are wrong...

Oops! What an unfortunately worded mistake!

RAFEngO74to09 8th Jul 2016 16:25

Off-Topic Info - F-16 Conformal Tanks
 
gr4techie

F-16C Block 50 onwards for Greece, Israel and UAE have had the capability since 2004. 50% more fuel than a centerline tank but only 12% of the drag.

Conformal Fuel Tanks for F-16

Polish aircraft here:

http://www.jetwashaviationphotos.com...n%208-5-08.jpg

matspart3 8th Jul 2016 21:00

F4's
 
2 x Greek F4's and 2 Greek F16's photoshoot prior to RIAT arrivals. Camera ship was a Beech 99 operating from Staverton. I was in the RHS :) Link to Facebook photos.... https://www.facebook.com/175620062644054/photos/pcb.492385404300850/492384784300912/?type=3&theater

Rhino power 8th Jul 2016 22:22

*UPDATE*

20 QF-4E's left at Holloman now.
74-1626 (AF-309) was 'expended' today... :sad:

-RP

Alber Ratman 8th Jul 2016 22:32

One of your bunty mates has been splashing photos of them all over Facebook.. :)

brokenlink 9th Jul 2016 08:15

My son (one of the ATC cadet helpers) took a nice shot of one of the F4s on the ground last night, will try and post later.


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