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NorthernKestrel 14th Jun 2016 09:55

No aerobatics by Red Arrows at Farnborough!
 
Post-Shoreham safety clampdown on flying displays not not just affecting private vintage jets and the smaller air shows, it seems....:(

Royal Aeronautical Society | Insight Blog | Farnborough Air Show 2016 Preview

Simplythebeast 14th Jun 2016 10:30

May as well disband them. The end of airshows in this Country.

Warmtoast 14th Jun 2016 10:35

Some details of viewing restrictions at this year's FI are here:
http://www.pprune.org/spectators-bal...srictions.html

NutLoose 14th Jun 2016 11:41

Well safety comes first, though it will not exactly be an inspiring show without aircraft showing off to their capability to both the public and trade visitors.
As trade days are a way to show off your wares to potential customers and get them on the first rung of becoming a client, it must be an uphill struggle if you cannot show them what your combat aicraft can do in real life when shown against its competitors.

The last Airshow I can think of when straight and level runs wowed the crowds must have been Kittyhawk 1903. :O




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MSOCS 14th Jun 2016 12:24


May as well disband them. The end of airshows in this Country.
Well, let's just hold on there. To your second point, I disagree. This isn't the "end of airshows in this country." Perhaps it's an end to fully aerobatic, high-energy air displays at airfields in close proximity to built-up areas (i.e. Farnborough airshow) but there are other venues that are less risky to display at. It just needs some creative thought as to where or how these events could possibly be hosted to ameliorate the CAA's new regulations.

As for your first point, forgive me if I sense a tone of, "well that's it then, may as well just give up" in your post. The Reds give a heck of a lot more than just Farnborough every two years.

sandiego89 14th Jun 2016 12:31


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 9408295)

The last Airshow I can think of when straight and level runs wowed the crowds must have been Kittyhawk 1903. :O


I remember a straight and level run that left me, and the crowd, quite wowed...


SR-71 in full burner....:E

MSOCS 14th Jun 2016 12:37

I think the last airshow NutLoose went to, actually was Kitty Hawk, in 1903! ;)

PDR1 14th Jun 2016 12:41

I remember the straight run-in B2A display that left the farnborough crowd speechless...

...because it had been performed at blackbushe rather than farnborough...

:)

PDR

DaveW 14th Jun 2016 12:59

That was a B-52. :)

PDR1 14th Jun 2016 13:24

Was it? Hard to tell from that distance...

:)

PDR

DaveW 14th Jun 2016 13:34

Well played. :D

PDR1 14th Jun 2016 13:49

I could claim it was deliberate, but I'd be lying. But in those days I had an office in Hertford House, 2nd floor, overlooking the airfield...

PDR

NutLoose 14th Jun 2016 14:05

Similar to the Cambridgeshire F-111 that did a full reheat pass down the runway, except didn't go down well with the crowd that never saw it, nor the gliding fraternity that were up and about above their little airfield soaring.

MPN11 14th Jun 2016 14:14

In which case, none of those events were flying displays at airshows ... they were just aircraft flying around somewhere else, which thereby absolves them from the Display restrictions. No?

PDR1 14th Jun 2016 14:48

Perhaps, but they did of course infringe airfield circuits unannounced, and violate the VVSP rule...

PDR

sandiego89 14th Jun 2016 15:10

So should we post the pre-emptive "boring, can't maneuver, unimpressive" F-35B debut at Farnborough posts here, or in the "other" thread ;)

Parson 14th Jun 2016 15:17

Perhaps they should just do their routine on mountain bikes. Oh hang on, think the Synchro Pair might be a bit too close for that....

VX275 14th Jun 2016 16:05


Similar to the Cambridgeshire F-111 that did a full reheat pass down the runway, except didn't go down well with the crowd that never saw it, nor the gliding fraternity that were up and about above their little airfield soaring.

The F111 force had a bit of reputation for that sort of thing. I remember being in the crowd at a RAFA Woodford airshow in the 70s desperately looking for the F111 that had called 'field in sight'. We were of course all looking in the wrong direction, if we'd turned around we would have seen the interesting manoeuvres being conducted by the airliners on approach to Manchester airport whilst avoiding the F111 carrying out his display at Ringway rather than Woodford.

langleybaston 14th Jun 2016 16:25

May we take it that the restrictions will apply to ALL aircraft at Farnboro, not only RAF?

SPIT 14th Jun 2016 16:27

VX 257
I remember that, that pilot was supposed to be one of the USAFs top reccy pilots ???. Further to that a friend of mine was sitting in an a/c going to Abu Dhabi and this so called TOP PILOT delayed all traffic at Manchester Airport. :ok::ok:


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