Your comments about China having their back are nothing beyond opinion. That the US let NK be before achieving nuke status is factually correct.

Opinion vs fact

Can anyone tell me IF Pakistan (and India for that matter)
Need "permission " to fire there nukes from the Americans like we do ?
Or are the indigenous built and controlled.

fallmonk. I'm standing by to be corrected, but my understanding is that our deterrent is truly "independent", and doesn't need permission from anybody.

Fallmonk,

You are totally incorrect. The UK does not require permission from the US to launch Trident.

Nassau Agreement 1962: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nassau_Agreement

[QUOTE=RAFEngO74to09;9392248]Fallmonk,

You are totally incorrect. The UK does not require permission from the US to launch Trident.

Nassau Agreement 1962: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nassau_Agreement[/QUOTE

I stand corrected, thank you for clearing that up, I wrongly had heard/read probably in the anti nuke press that permission was required as it was a American system!
Apologies

Heh, Pakistan won't ask "by your leave" from anyone. This makes some people very nervous.

I wonder how many will get that reference. Lemme get some pogeybait and wait out responses.

Fallmonk:

The odious Livingstone came out with this cr*p on the Daily Politics on the BBC, unfortunately for 'it', Peter Hennesey who co-authored with Peter Jinks the recent book on RN submarine history since 1945. hennesey tore him a new orrifice in less than 30 seconds. It's a very interesting book.