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Rhino power 25th May 2016 21:28

RC-135 'two near collisions' with civvy airliners (allegedly)...
 
https://theaviationist.com/2016/05/2...ssia-mod-says/

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Martin the Martian 26th May 2016 12:27

That's a bit rich, the Russians accusing others of being unprofessional.

Wander00 26th May 2016 12:47

MM - I agree

Treble one 26th May 2016 12:47

Cos popping down the English Channel in a dirty great Bear with your transponder off is of course a very sensible thing to do....?

ExAscoteer 26th May 2016 12:59

Kettle this is Pot, I have message, over...

tdracer 26th May 2016 14:58

Does TCAS work if one of the aircraft has its transponder turned off?

Avtur 26th May 2016 16:31

Don't think so: TCAS needs to see a squawk to know that something is there. The Rivet Joint TCAS should see a squawking aircraft even if its transponder is at Stby.

barnstormer1968 27th May 2016 17:28

I'm wondering why the union flag is painted 'in distress' on one side of the fin. The 51 Sqn emblem manages to be correct on both sides.

SwitchMonkey 27th May 2016 18:00

Union Flag
 
It isn't "in distress", see page 7 of the document below...

https://www.flaginstitute.org/pdfs/F...ed_Kingdom.pdf

barnstormer1968 28th May 2016 10:04

Switch monkey.
Thanks for posting that, every day's a schools day !

melmothtw 28th May 2016 10:04

NATO aircraft flying in the Baltic routinely turn off their transponders so as not to 'spook' commercial air traffic and inadvertantly cause their TCAS to activate.

Now, if that's a safe thing to do when the Russians are called irresponsible for doing the same is open to debate.

ShotOne 5th Jun 2016 20:46

I'm not sure which is most scarey; military aircraft routinely operating close enough to civilian traffic for this to be an issue, or some bright spark deciding that bypassing TCAS somehow "solves" things!

KG86 6th Jun 2016 08:54

SwitchMonkey,

Thanks very much for the flag protocol link. Fascinating stuff.

What the document illustrates, however, is the 'awkward' nature of the UK. The UK comprises Great Britain (the mainland of England, Scotland and Wales) and Northern Ireland. But there is not a single mention of Northern Ireland in that document, nor an illustration of its flag.

While we are at it, what about the title of 'Brexit'? This implies British Exit but, as already mentioned, GB does not include Northern Ireland.

Willard Whyte 6th Jun 2016 09:23

'Ukexit' doesn't exactly trip off the tongue...


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