PPRuNe Forums

PPRuNe Forums (https://www.pprune.org/)
-   Military Aviation (https://www.pprune.org/military-aviation-57/)
-   -   Vulcan to the Sky Trust to return Canberra WK163 to display flight (https://www.pprune.org/military-aviation/579210-vulcan-sky-trust-return-canberra-wk163-display-flight.html)

wonderboysteve 31st May 2016 11:39

Gsxr600

wonderboysteve, this is actually only partly true. Martin Withers was asked the exact reason for ceasing flying in an event I attended and this is what he said as I recall.

It was Marshalls who were unwilling to continue OEM support beyond 2015. VTTS did find an alternative company (Cranfield) who were willing to assume the role, but Cranfield were not acceptable to RR. So you could argue it was Marshall's that pulled the plug rather than RR, as RR were willing to continue further if Marshalls had not withdrawn. The remaining engines, through careful management, had sufficient life for a few more seasons.
Unfortunately RR were not willing to continue, even in the event that Marshalls had been.

I'll ask MW whether he considers himself misquoted, next time I see him.

NutLoose 31st May 2016 11:46

Quite rightly too, better to have ended on a high while the going was good, than to risk it all for one extra season....

Still we do have this to watch fly :)

And damned impressive it was

https://c5.staticflickr.com/8/7176/2...69213869_c.jpg

https://c7.staticflickr.com/8/7418/2...ae2826ba_c.jpg

Sorry the second shot is not as good, but I was shooting half way down the runway. :)

NutLoose 31st May 2016 11:52


I believe that the silica gel practice came about as a result of VTTS failing to prevent corrosion on turbine discs by proper storage. RR's first reaction to the degree of corrosion was to scrap them. I think they did get around to some form of recovery eventually. While I wasn't involved, I believe RR was not too happy about the competence of VTTS which may have coloured their view of the change from Marshalls. I believe the CAA would have also had to approve the change to Cranfield; did they have any issues?

EAP
And common sense would have dictated the Silica Gel used should have been placed in the jet pipe NOT the intake. Sadly common sense seemed to be lacking, but hey ho, no use crying over spilt compressor blades.

Stanwell 31st May 2016 22:04

That scale jobbie is pretty impressive, Nutty.
Any details on it?

Lima Juliet 1st Jun 2016 06:42

I believe it is 1/5th scale.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oV8h4OEFOsI

Gsxr600 1st Jun 2016 19:53

wonderboysteve,

its certainly my recollection of MW's explanation, he made the point more than once, that it was Marshall's decision to discontinue which triggered the end of flight and RR would have continued (but not with anyone else such as Cranfield). It sounds like you know him personally and may have heard things differently. If I've misunderstood I apologise - his comments were made at the Vulcan Restoration Trust Christmas event so a good 40 or 50 others in the room also listened to what he said, they may have heard differently to me, though he seemed quite clear to me.

Nutloose, I have also wondered the same thing. The Silica gel incident couldn't have built confidence, to say the least.

Anyway, whether RR or Marshalls felt enough was enough, or whether it was a joint decision hardly matters now.

glad rag 2nd Jun 2016 14:02

" The Silica gel incident couldn't have built confidence"

if we are leaning towards RR I'd say pot kettle and black!

NutLoose 3rd Jun 2016 19:52

Some good news on XM603 at Woodford

https://youtube.com/watch?v=kWl3fT_nFh8

flipflopman RB199 3rd Jun 2016 20:37


" The Silica gel incident couldn't have built confidence"

if we are leaning towards RR I'd say pot kettle and black!
Glad Rag

Please feel free to elaborate. Don't be shy about including any facts, as opposed to your freely given opinion. :rolleyes:


Flipflopman

Valiantone 7th Jun 2016 19:19

Well its been re-registered as G-CTTS.

V1

bobward 7th Jun 2016 21:35

Does this mean that VTTS are no longer involved withe the 'Peoples Mosquito' project?

Apologies for thread drift......:)

GeeRam 8th Jun 2016 09:09


Originally Posted by bobward
Does this mean that VTTS are no longer involved withe the 'Peoples Mosquito' project?

Don't think anyone is involved with the 'Peoples Mosquito' project anymore, it all too predictably fell apart a year or more ago IIRC.

NutLoose 8th Jun 2016 10:03

I wonder if anyone has got the Canberra to the sky website and registered it before them

Mike51 8th Jun 2016 15:37


Originally Posted by GeeRam (Post 9402144)
Don't think anyone is involved with the 'Peoples Mosquito' project anymore, it all too predictably fell apart a year or more ago IIRC.

It is still ticking along slowly, with wing ribs currently being manufactured in New Zealand.

TPM a Registered Charity ? Reg marks G-FBVI reserved ? wing ribs update ? The People's Mosquito

TEEEJ 8th Jun 2016 17:28

Nutloose wrote


I wonder if anyone has got the Canberra to the sky website and registered it before them
Someone in Italy owns the following. Registered 5th May 2016

Canberratothesky.org - Canberratothesky

kwick 1st Jul 2016 19:33

Canberra aircraft in Peru
 
Will visit Pisco tomorrow, a city where a peruvian air force military base is located, to accompany a colleague that has just bought three complete Canberra aircraft from them. Peru was a fleet user of the type. We will be there for coordinations and pictures will be available. Does anyone know of someone interested in Canberra parts or engines?

Valiantone 1st Jul 2016 19:43

Interesting news Kwick, I would be interested to know which jets he got as the Peruvians bought a batch of the RAF B(I).8s in the mid 70s.

Still wish someone had not decided to get rid of the one we had at Cosford:{

V1

kwick 3rd Jul 2016 00:33

Hi V1,
Will let know which model he has got, and which is the status on them, would be nice if in some way something can be done with them.
Best regards,
Kwick

canberrasig 9th Jul 2016 19:20


Originally Posted by kwick (Post 9428355)
Hi V1,
Will let know which model he has got, and which is the status on them, would be nice if in some way something can be done with them.
Best regards,
Kwick

I'd be very interested too to see which ones he's got. If I could add any photos you get to the album on my site that would be fantastic.
FAP Canberra's Fuerza Aerea del Peru - IPMS UK Canberra SIG

John

NutLoose 26th Sep 2017 17:31

Out of interest as I have been on an extended vacation for a while, are you aware that the Vulcan, Canberra in a partially stripped down state, their tooling and equipment are currently residing outside near the sewerage works, they also have I believe deinhibited the engines as well and as they have no engineers anymore the chances of them being inhibited is probably rare.



Worse than the Canberra having the Horizontal tail off is the wings are open too, they haven't even done what any engineer would have done and taped it all up to protect it. Unless taken beforehand I suppose.

http://www.visitdoncaster.com/system...a___Vulcan.png

so you are left with this open to the elements

http://www.vulcantothesky.org/upload...e/Canberra.JPG


All times are GMT. The time now is 22:03.


Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.