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PhilipG 16th Apr 2016 09:30

Assuming that this project does progress, what confuses me is where the manpower is going to come from, I understood that the USAF wanted to retire the A10 so that the maintainers could be trained on the F35... So does this project mean fewer F35s or is the USAF expanding?

Heathrow Harry 16th Apr 2016 12:17

F-35 drivers who are sitting it out waiting for the Mod 10 software to be fixed..............

stilton 17th Apr 2016 03:45

I can just see it.


Stealthy, supersonic, supercruising and about $1 Billion dollars each..

ORAC 11th Jul 2018 07:42

Close Air Support Fly-off Farce

Close Air Support Fly-off Farce

F-35 Versus A-10 Fly-off Tests Designed to Mislead


Rhino power 11th Jul 2018 13:03


Originally Posted by ORAC (Post 10194004)
F-35 Versus A-10 Fly-off Tests Designed to Mislead

Quelle surprise...

-RP

cargosales 11th Jul 2018 13:20


Originally Posted by ORAC (Post 10194004)
Close Air Support Fly-off Farce

Close Air Support Fly-off Farce

F-35 Versus A-10 Fly-off Tests Designed to Mislead


Interesting... and scary.

What a crock of sh!t when it's the troops on the ground going in harms way not those shining seats with their ass (and overfilled wallets in their back pocket)

Lonewolf_50 11th Jul 2018 13:29


Originally Posted by Heathrow Harry (Post 9345031)
ATG - using a part of the Deterent Triad to support guys in the front-line against an AK-47 armed guerilla is ridiculous

An A-10 replacement needs to be exactly that - something relatively simple that we can buy in large numbers

Who is we, Harry? How many A-10's did the UK buy?
You don't need the A-10 to take out a guerilla with an AK-47. (Though they do a lovely job of it when asked)

SASless 11th Jul 2018 14:12

If we find ourselves fighting Russian, Chinese, or Noth Korean Tanks?

A_Van 11th Jul 2018 15:41

The article sounds outrageous, but I wonder where is the "other lobby"? OK, the proponents of F-35 are doing their job trying to justify as many "use cases" as possible. But if it's so obvious that it can't replace A-10 in the considered (close combat) scenarios why do the people who really believe it and have arguments "in hands" (e.g. real situations they encountered while fighting jihaddists) not use them in front of "decision makers" is some tough way?

Pontius Navigator 11th Jul 2018 16:10

It would certainly appear to be a competition written with F35 rules. I am surprised they didn't include an operating base 100 miles plus from target thus favouring the F35 transit times unless it would cripple the over target time.

Once watched a BAF 4xF16 performing a CSAR practise with an attack going in every 30 seconds - impressive - something an A10 could probably do with 2.

I suppose they could look at the effectiveness of UK Tornado or AV8B in that mission.

Heathrow Harry 11th Jul 2018 19:36


Originally Posted by Lonewolf_50 (Post 10194263)
Who is we, Harry? How many A-10's did the UK buy?
You don't need the A-10 to take out a guerilla with an AK-47. (Though they do a lovely job of it when asked)

"we" as in the Western Alliance dear boy - TBH I always felt a couple of squadrons of RAF A-10' would have been more useful in a real war than some pop-up helicopters.......

At the end of the day I remember something in "Flight" ... almost certainly "Straight & Level"

" hey , Ivan, how did the NATO deep strike force do?"

"Dunno, tovarich... can you move your T-72 off the esplanade? the mayor of Calais says it's blocking the view..."

sycamore 11th Jul 2018 21:32

Can the A-10 FIRE `SINGLE-SHOT...?

Pontius Navigator 12th Jul 2018 13:27


Originally Posted by sycamore (Post 10194546)
Can the A-10 FIRE `SINGLE-SHOT...?

If one bullet is loaded, maybe :)


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