First Female AOC!
RAF - Senior Appointments
Congratulations to AVM Sue Gray - AOC of 38 Gp! Is the glass ceiling finally being broken? |
Also interesting to note that the 1* ATC and ABM appointees are both female!
Air Cdre CHRISTINA ELLIOT CR ATC 22TRGGP DGT Air Cdre WENDY MILLINGTON WJ ABM DCOS SUPPORT - OAC GXS 0010 (Ramstein) By heck, the World has changed. |
OMG!!!!!!! :mad:
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Wasn't "Aunty" Joan Hopkins the first female 1* AOC Air Battle management, or whatever it was called.
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Wander 00:
The PMRAFNS whilst a stand alone branch of the RAF, they had the first female 1* equivent in 1948 Air Commandant Dame Helen Cargill and our first Air Commodore was Air Commodore Metcalfe in 1978 followed by my ultimate boss in 1982 Air Commodore Harris. |
AVM Gray was previously DE&S Director of Combat Air.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/s...the-top-in-raf Here is an interesting article from a few years ago: No glass ceiling for female officers | History and Policy |
Wander00 ... There was a rumour [likely true in this case] that Joan Hopkins was offered the post [and 1* rank] of DWRAF and declined it on the basis that she was not willing to be a "token female 1*". She was indeed subsequently promoted within her chosen Branch of GD(G)FC ... or at least, at that rank, of simply GD(G).
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MPN11 - I was her OC Admin Sqn at the time - she was, and she did - her language on the topic was quite colourful!
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Her language was often colourful, as I recall from a landline conversation with her in Singapore! Glad to have the rumour validated :ok:
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By heck, the World has changed. I think I was once in 38Gp when they had aeroplanes. |
Wander, MPN11 ...
I'm sure you will have seen this before ... What a very impressive lady :ok: BBC East 1984 RAF Neatishead : Fighter Controller |
Hi Coff - Thanks, I have seen it, in fact I was involved in the admin side, as I was her OC Admin Sqn at the time. Her "In Memoriam" on this site a couple of years back was pretty impressive too.
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Excellent video!!
:8 My favourite radar alltime - Type 85 :8 Lots of shots of 56 Sqn Pity they spent so long looking at the Tornado GR - not relevant but I suppose the F2 wasn't there yet |
T84/T85 grinding at 4 rpm was scary when used for ATC, but I do accept that gave it the range. It was our backup to the T82, which was a bit more nimble ;)
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Is it just me or do there seem to be an awful lot of VSOs for such a reduced Air Force with not many aircraft?
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Damn that glass ceiling. It's about time we saw a few cracks through it.
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CS:-
I'm sure you will have seen this before ... What a very impressive lady Impressive too for its portrayal of a time when we had an Air Force that exceeded critical mass, to confront and defeat those who would harm us. It all seems so long ago... |
Chug - and then neither does Phil the Greek. Early in theGW1 when the Royal were getting flak for not "supporting our boys (and girls I guess)" I was rung on a Thursday and asked if we would take a visit from him on TUESDAY! Staish (Reg McK) is in Germany so rang to give him the good news, and got the inevitable "fix it". So I did, first port of call the nursery school. HRH grinding teeth.
Roll 10 years or so and I am representing R Lym YC at Princess Royal's birthday bash at Windsor. D of E approaches group I am with and people start to introduce themselves. Before I could say anything he grins and says "We have met before, at Wyton, and you took me to the nursery school". Said to minder "That was a good brief". No says the flunky, a good memory, he never forgets a face". Thought that was me for the Tower. |
@earswentpop That's a keyboard you owe me :D
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