Don't forget Israel also has 40 odd F16a's that are looking for future owners too.

http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone...40-up-for-sale

If the Argies did want them, any objection on our part would be treated with nothing more than mild disinterest by Israel. Of far more concern to them would be Argentina's (in)ability to pay. No doubt as soon as they can afford fuel for their coastguard RIBs, these F16's will be top of the list!

Still short on combat range if they want to visit the chaps I would think?

possibly, but then Argentina is also in the process of buying - how fortuitously - a KC-130 tanker...

i don't know what Kfirs actual combat range is in real world conditions, but its worth noting that the figure given in Wikipedia is for an aircraft carrying seven 500lb bombs as well as AAM and drop tanks. what impact would losing the weight and drag of five of them be..?

i should point out that of course Kfir on its own can't get them the FI, but Kfir with a tanker and the political will to give a friendly wave to the air-bridge flights way out in the Atlantic would make holding them vastly more expensive than the current arrangement.

Not forgetting ex-French Air Force Mirage F1s (-CR, -CT, even -C) dozens of them still available after the FAF went Rafale/Mirage 2000 only...

Anyway, an awfully ongoing long-story, for all those involved, including the Argentinian Air Force

When the FFA talk to politicians I'll bet it's Chile they talk about not the RAF

Chile has 46 x F-16's, 9 x F-5, an AWACS and a KC-135 tanker

Interesting the the Israeli Air Industry regularly competes for UK Air C2 systems too. Nice to be a potential supplier to both sides - what are the chances?

And in the meantime, they can't afford the fly the few remaining jets they do have

Any offence air campaign that starts with 'buy some aircraft' is unlikely to achieve any level of tactical surprise. Should they ever get to the point of having a dozen Kfirs serviceable, fully armed, with trained crews and some kind of hostile intent I just cannot see how they would trouble a Typhoon. The Typhoon driver would have no good reason to allow a Kfir to get anywhere near missile engagement parameters - even if the Kfir could find and track a Typhoon without giving the game away.

Meanwhile a Typhoon pilot could happily use his considerable dry-power speed / energy advantage, datalink/ESM/Pirate and at least 2Nm altitude advantage to drive his aircraft and chuck his missiles anywhere he pleases.

No doubt the Book of Samuel is included with every Kfir but a victory by David is still doubtful.

Not really. I wonder where this comes from.

Barely enough to over fly Byron Heights. Not enough to engage in little things that only flourish in minds away from Argentina.

First, It´s FAA = FUERZA AEREA ARGENTINA.

Second, Chile is Argentina´s safeguard against the RAF. Tide did turn in the past 25 years.

That´s of course true... if real world conditions would always allow. Ever heard about the Falkland-four-season-day? Was not there some trouble with the jet fuel some years ago? Did not a pair of EFAs had to divert to Punta Arenas some five plus years ago? (first time ever something like that happen in the South Atlantic, by the way)

CAW:

Argentina is looking to buy a couple of ex-USMC KC-130s, but without the IFR equipment.

Martin,

Argentina´s FAA is looking for planes to enlarge its C130 fleet. It´s been also upgrading some of the planes it has and it´s been at some point stablished that some 8-10 aircraft are needed.

The USMC planes were looked upon. I know that some five or six were chosen. Wether they are KC or not it´s not relevant since it´s not what the FAA is looking for. Anyway, the sale requires an authorization that will be left for Trump´s administration to clear or not. And then it´s the eternal matter of payments and delivereance schedules.

Since the retirement of the 707, F-28 and F-27 in the past eight years, the transport fleet of the FAA has gone shrinking.

Most recent news refer to the interest of both FAA and COAN for the C-295. Looks like no less than 4 of those planes could be ordered soon. And the KC-390 it´s also in the FAA plans

And now...the MiG 29 enters the comedy.

https://sputniknews.com/business/201...entina-mig-29/

Well, according to the press FA-50, M-346, Kfir, Mirage F-1, Su-24, Gripen NG (without british parts) and now the MiG-29 could be the next AAF fighter.

The neverending story.

Marcantilan, do you have a sense of why not the F-16 is not in that mix?
Is the cost too high or are there some lingering political issues between Argentina and the US?
It seems a good fit with a proven record.

T28B, the "original" plan (back in the 90s) was to purchase first the A-4ARs (A4-Ms with upgraded avionics) and later the F-16s. I fact, the ARG-1 radar was a downgraded APG-66 radar (with a smaller radar dish), the same the F-16 then had.

Of course, the plan was not followed. In fact, an AAF CO once said the F-16 is problematic because the intake could absorb stones in the Patagonian Airfields (yes...) and last year the Ministry of Defense argued against the F-16 because the Chileans have problems with the plane (what problems???)

I think the AAF wants two sources of planes. One american (A-4AR) and the other from elsewhere. Just to escape any "embargo" in the future.

Regards!

I fully expect to read the headline 'Argentina in talks with UK for Tranche 1 Typhoons' before too long. At this rate they'll have gone everywhere else.

well we did sell them warships once.................

Not to mention Canberras, Lynxes, HS.125s, Skyvans...

pity we never threw in Lord Andrew LLoyd -Webber.................

CAW

Honest question. Why would Argentina feel the need to safeguard against the RAF? The RAF poses absolutely no threat to Argentina.:confused: