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Fishtailed 8th Oct 2015 18:55

RE ENGINED JAGUARS
 
From Janes 15/04/2015 article on IAF jaguars-

Honeywell, for its part, is believed to have acquired two RAF Jaguars and successfully test flown them with F-125IN engines, giving them the confidence thereafter to pursue the IAF contract, industry sources said.

How true is that, or have I missed this on PPRUNE. Any proof or photos?

HaveQuick2 8th Oct 2015 20:15

This page would indicate that XX737 may be one of the jets concerned

Demobbed - Out of Service British Military Aircraft

andyy 9th Oct 2015 07:58

For completeness, the 15 April story:

India's Jaguar upgrade hits snag over engine selection - IHS Jane's 360

LowObservable 9th Oct 2015 13:13

Something about someone's inability to manage their way out of a wet paper bag seems appropriate here.

Wokkafans 9th Oct 2015 15:31

I think the lesson to be learnt here is that one should always take extra care when trying to insert large items into a small pussy :E

NutLoose 9th Oct 2015 15:35

That counts you out then.....:E

I may have a photo of the Spotty Jag at Cosford having the engine installed, I will have a look to see if it is.




Sorry Wokka, you left the door open and I couldn't resist..

Wokkafans 9th Oct 2015 15:37

Well played that man :D

Rionart 9th Oct 2015 16:29

No wonder they are having issues...
 
Unfortunate typo in the link: "The retrofit includes equipping the IS/IM/IB versions of the twin-engine Jaguars"

Alber Ratman 9th Oct 2015 16:51

The spotty Jag tested the revised Adour, not the F125N. Honeywell are still working to integrate the F125N to the Jaguar and the project is progressing.

http://www.honeywellforjaguar.com/jaguar.swf

XX737 is shown in the video. Honeywell have also brought a T4 frame from Everett Aero, XX150 I think for system integration development. If Honeywell had flown a Jaguar powered with the F125N, they might have let the world know about it via them, it would have been great PR, so take logic as an answer, not an "Insider". A few clues in the video would mention FADEC control and weight saving. A few changes required to the air frame required to accommodate those are likely. I know XX737 hasn't flown with one, it was sold by the MoD RAF with a big hole in the front of it after a bird strike in 2005, that happened at Leeming. The last RAF trained Jag pilot flew it back to Colt while he was still on the OCU, after it had been expediently repaired. ;)

NutLoose 9th Oct 2015 17:21

Sorry that's me, I should have said Adour, reading back one can understand the confusion in my post.

Alber Ratman 9th Oct 2015 18:22

Nutty, no problems mate. Certain individuals may have been in communication with me and I with them. ;) I hope Honeywell all the best fortune with their project, for their team.. :ok:

Martin the Martian 10th Oct 2015 09:28

That woman's pronunciation of Jaguar is very distracting: Jag-you-ahr.

If Honeywell do sort this out, ever think what kind of potential gold mine the RAF are sitting on at Cosford? All those low houred Jaguars?

Alber Ratman 10th Oct 2015 13:08

All the low houred Jaguars have life expiried wings on them and the GR1s with low hours that were retired in the 1980s have avionics that are 30 years out of date.. :E

NutLoose 10th Oct 2015 15:53

Yup they swopped wings with Oman to extend their fleet lives.

Nigerians got a nice fleet of low houred Jags (about 150 hrs each) but as with everything Nigerian they have been left to rot, though they were trying to find a sucker to buy them.


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