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Ken Scott 10th Jul 2015 10:23

Battle of Britain? 40% of young people don't know what it is
 
http://http://www.telegraph.co.uk/hi...-invasion.html

What is wrong with 'young people' these days? Do they not even watch the 1969 film any more? Do they not know who Susannah York was? (Beagle that's your opportunity for an input). Is this the freedom that the Few bought so dearly so that 10% of 'young people' can believe that it was fought against the Vikings & a similar proportion that it actually took place last year? An urgent remedy is called for - perhaps a new X box game - Call of Duty, Battle of Britain - with an option to play a cigar chewing Yank flying a P51 against hordes of incoming Nazi planes flown by blonde Aryan cyborgs created by evil scientists in concentration camps. That should address the lack of history education in schools.

Nurse, I think my medication needs topping up.

Martin the Martian 10th Jul 2015 11:12

Unfortunately, between the Normans, the Tudors and the rise of Hitler (but not what came after) anything else struggles to get a look in during history lessons.

teeteringhead 10th Jul 2015 11:39


10% of 'young people' believe that it was fought against the Vikings
But I thought the Vikings were on our side?? ;)

http://www.raf.mod.uk/rafcms/mediafi...iking-T1-1.png

Rakshasa 10th Jul 2015 11:45

Speaking of the anniversary, does anyone know if there is a full 75th flypast planned or is the BBMF and four ship this weekend really all we're going to get?

Hempy 10th Jul 2015 11:46


Do they not know who Susannah York was? (Beagle that's your opportunity for an input).
1962
http://static.rogerebert.com/uploads...x250-30503.jpg

2010
http://www.digitaljournal.com/img/5/...annah_York.jpg

gr4techie 10th Jul 2015 11:47

Thanks to the media now aimed at the lowest common denominator. Such as the tabloid papers and trashy daytime TV. People these days are dumbed down. No wonder the govt gets away with fuel duty, a 1% payrise for us while a £19,000 payrise for the MP's themselves. "We're all in this together".

Ken Scott 10th Jul 2015 12:06

Hempy: a little unfair on the late Ms York methinks. We all age, those of us fortunate enough to survive long enough anyway. How about posting a more appropriate picture of her, in WAAF 'undress' perhaps?

mikedreamer787 10th Jul 2015 12:16

Hempy that can't be her! Must be some unknown younger sister.


Now THIS is Susannah York! :ok:

( Ken Scott you owe me ;) )


Front...

http://i898.photobucket.com/albums/a...ain_docsc2.jpg


Back...

https://everardcunion.files.wordpres...usannayork.jpg


Sideways...

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u...l1952/BoB2.jpg


On her back... :E

http://40.media.tumblr.com/719458e18...01wo1_1280.jpg



And still highly desirable even in WAF regalia!

https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5086/5...568ac6f8_b.jpg

NDW 10th Jul 2015 14:19

A side step from the BoB,

Someone I knew who I was friends with on Book Face (I hasten to add I am no longer friends with) commented on another friends post with the following;

RIP Nelson (relating to the late Nelson Mandela) - you were a hero!

My 'friend' didn't he die at sea.

'You mean Horatio Nelson'

'Friend' - Do I.

Genuinely cretinous, no idea about anything.

Not only was history at school a personal favourite of mine, but also its respectful to know and understand about the most basic of British history.

Sadly the only things most 'youngsters' care about now are Vajazzles and Celeb Big brother!

**I'm 23 btw** - and don't do either of the above :E

cornish-stormrider 10th Jul 2015 14:20

Battle of Britain? 40% of young people don't know what it is
 
Yowsah.........

PPRuNeUser0139 10th Jul 2015 14:41


Sadly the only things most 'youngsters' care about now are Vajazzles and Celeb Big brother!
.. and those who cannot remember Celeb Big Brother are condemned to repeat it.

Or summat..

Once worked with a highly educated wench (MSc in Chem Eng) in her early 30s who thought D-Day had taken place in the 18th C. When put right, she exclaimed, "Well how do you expect me to know that? It was before I was born..!"

I heard a few years ago that UK schools had combined History and Geography and taught it as "Humanities"?

Pontius Navigator 10th Jul 2015 14:49

Or the Cold War, the Korean War, Suez, 6-Day, Yom Kippur, Falklands .
.

Met a young Latvian, Latvia was always an independent State, never heard of the Cold War.

Martin le M, it is left to University, if you are so inclined, to fill in the gap. Some good TV programmes by historians, but not the incredulous young presenters revealing for the first time what was common knowledge at the time.

Hempy 10th Jul 2015 14:53

The Battle of Britain. Wasn't that North Melbourne v's Carlton at The Oval, 1986?


Danny42C 10th Jul 2015 20:05

No, but they know all about the Slave Trade ! And some can even read and write !


mikedreamer787,

Them were the days !

Danny.

Duralumin 10th Jul 2015 20:07

Before the outrage bus gets too full remember that the Battle of Britain is as distant from modern yoof as the relief of Mafeking was for those of us of a certain age. Then again we did get schooling in southern African wars courtesy of Michael Caine.

Dougie M 10th Jul 2015 20:13

Of course Michael Caine was in the "Battle of Britain" too.
Canfield "Either we take off or blow up"
No mention of it being just the doors.

Wensleydale 10th Jul 2015 21:13

....and how many of the modern RAF believe the film that it was Fighter Command that caused the withdrawal of the German invasion fleet and not Bomber Command attacks on the Channel Ports during the "Battle of the Barges"?


If people are not told then they cannot know..... those of us who come from what is called the "Airfix Generation" and were brought up reading "Captain Hurricane" and "Battler Britain" in Valiant comic etc with twice weekly reminders of the War in "All Our Yesterdays" on TV knew about these events. Todays youth have no inkling about what happened unless of course they have a Spitfire/Lancaster PS3 game.


This is why it is important to maintain RAF Station Heritage Centres where the "new" recruits can learn about this - and why it is important for our leaders to ensure that they visit! My experience is that the current crop of RA intake rarely, if ever, visit such places and their supervisors who do not send them there should be ashamed!!

Tankertrashnav 10th Jul 2015 21:24

As an aside, today's events have taken me a bit by surprise. I know the significance of 19th July as being the date when the B o B is deemed to have started, but dont we usually commemorate it on or around 15th September, generally considered to be the climax of the battle? Anyone know if there are further events planned for September?

Wensleydale 10th Jul 2015 21:36

September is probably too close to the next SDSR for the MOD's comfort!

Pontius Navigator 10th Jul 2015 21:47

TTN. Surely it is now traditional to commemorate the start as well as the end - two for one so to speak.


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