Police seize drone over Wimbledon Tennis area.
First one I've ever read about in UK being nicked by Police (sort of).
Police pulled a chap who was flying one about over the tennis courts. Police seize Wimbledon drone as security tightens after terror attacks | UK news | The Guardian Police are right to be jumpy about this sort of thing now. Eventually, does not just about every sort of new machine become a weapon in the end? I'm guessing the drone and its master here were both pretty entirely innocent, in this case. Just a sports fan, or press? But we are seeing the future here and now-soon drones flying about will be very commonplace. Transporting stuff, couriers, live news feeds, traffic feeds, survey work-all sorts of pleasure and commercial - its right upon us and quickly to. As regards national security, have the old bill pushed the RAF out of the way on this then? In regards defence? Can you even realistically defend people on the ground from drone intrusion? Can you jam out the signal to a drone being used? In the manner you can jam mobile phones etc? We probably already are. I know Prunes done drone threads before, I just think they will be some much of a part of our future lives, like cars and phones, for better or worse. RAF Drone Defence Force. Send for the DDF....RAFDDF..hmmmm..work in progress. RAFADAF....maybe. |
There is an RA(T) notified for Wimbledon, but it doesn't come into force until Monday.
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With the low cost of remote drones with gimbal cameras the uses for crime or terrorism are almost endless.
Many years ago a local major criminal employed microlights to monitor police activity and responses to crimes. These days a few remote quad copters could do the same, give real time images as well as being harder to detect from the ground. A quad copter over Wimbledon may just be taking pics (but not innocently given the times we live in) but could just as easliy drop something nasty over the court or crowd. |
To my mind the police acted rightly. Wimbledon is a high-profile event, and security must be in everyone's mind now.
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Not a lot to be said really, those who would eliminate our way of life will enjoy reading about this.
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Originally Posted by Barnstormer
A quad copter over Wimbledon may just be taking pics (but not innocently given the times we live in) but could just as easliy drop something nasty over the court or crowd.
I'm seriously not having a go, I am truly interested in this. |
With the low cost of remote drones with gimbal cameras the uses for crime or terrorism are almost endless. Many years ago a local major criminal employed microlights to monitor police activity and responses to crimes. These days a few remote quad copters could do the same, give real time images as well as being harder to detect from the ground. A quad copter over Wimbledon may just be taking pics (but not innocently given the times we live in) but could just as easliy drop something nasty over the court or crowd. |
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I'll pm you just in case anyone else thinks I've thought of something new :) |
I would imagine it dropping a dozen tennis balls might cause havoc on centre court.
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There are rules/regulations, you know - or perhaps you don't know ?
There are very specific and readily available (even to amateur joe public) legal requirements for the operating of every kind of drone in the UK, and for very good reasons. If he/she was legal or licensed, as appropriate or applicable - he/she should have no problem. If he/she wasn't legal or licensed, he/she was rightly nicked and hopefully will face the consequences so as to discourage all the other drone law/rule breakers, whatever they (or anyone else) might offer as their intentions or excuses. ......... LFH
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I'm guessing he was just trying to get footage of the tennis match. Whoever had the broadcast rights probably not happy about unauthorized use.
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legal droning
Have you seen the hoops that have to be jumped through to qualify as a drone operator??!!
Costs more than the NPPL!! Years ago, I was an Examiner in the model aircraft proficiency scheme, and should in theory have some insight into responsible RPV activity... Crashing models is easier now, because they are purchased instead of constructed. Idiots with credit cards can cause damage and injury. Remote control missiles have been in action for many years, the big difference is the video data link. Hate to say it, but the Easyjet flights over my house are well within range of a powerful fast climbing model aircraft... with a camera, there's choice of cockpit or engine impact. Could lift a 20mm shell as well. I'm one of the good guys... |
I can't work out the Military Aviation aspect to this - what am I missing?
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The security employed for the Wimbledon week are servicemen and women...... Tenuous I know :O
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Fair enough - I knew there would be a connection, but I'm having a slow day!
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
(Post 9026680)
They also used to use the web and satellite views of the Home Counties for the give away signs of lead roofs to steal, i.e. green verdigris staining.
Green verdigris staining....copper surely? Lead just turns, well, lead colour. |
Is it classed as an aviation threat? The police are running the show but if the attack will come from the sky, is it not an RAF responsibility to defend from? Its their level of expertise? They did alright in the past with this sort of thing. I just think there's an overlap of responsibility which generally means there will be a weakness to be exploited by others who wish our people harm.
Its a depressing subject I concede. But it does interest me, very much so after I observed two expert chaps flying one near a private stately castle grounds I sometimes frequent. Well controlled, powerful, could climb to a good height and hover still.. until you've seen a proper drone working...I for one had no idea how good they were. I think in the future terrorists will use them with small anti personnel mines attached and surprise ambush specific high value targets, and my guess is some sort of disabler or jammer will have to be used to interfere with the control signal. And the easiest and best way to bring one down as a last resort will be with powerful automatic fire shotguns with the largest shot SSG/AAA size maybe? And the RAF should do this based on intelligence received, be given the responsibility because they are the experts, not the Police (who have enough to do, and sometimes lapse when using weaponry -its not their job-I reject the present armed police Robocop look). And if I'm thinking about this now then the others will have thought it through about 12 or 13 years before me. Just hope our side are up to speed that's all. |
Heh... in Israel they dont like 'unknown' drones at all. They send up the fighter jets and even use Patriot missile batteries to shoot em down... :cool:
Probably be the way it goes in Pomy land. Patriot battery in the wimbliton car park... "Suspected Hamas UAV causes IAF to scramble jets..." Gaza drone crashes in Israel - Israel News, Ynetnews . |
Originally Posted by Flying Binghi
(Post 9027128)
Probably be the way it goes in Pomy land. Patriot battery in the wimbliton car park.... US Navy reveals boat mounted laser that can shoot down drones, boats and even doubles as a 'Hubble telescope on the water' laser surveillance system - and it is ALREADY in use - 30 kW laser integrates six commercial 5.4 kW fibre lasers into one beam - Controlled using a video game controller by a single operator - System can also be used as a long range laser surveillance scanner - USS Ponce in the Persian Gulf given go ahead to defend itself with weapon |
"Have you seen the hoops that have to be jumped through to qualify as a drone operator??!!"
butthae cat is out of the bag on drones - anyone can buy themwithout any qualifications Now if the Govt made Amazon or whoever responsible for any costs incurred in any case involving drones... but no dount m'learned friends woud get them off............... |
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