Originally Posted by P6 Driver
(Post 9017013)
Easy to say of course, but on what basis?
(i.e. How and why did the Army get lumbered with the two-tone grey?) |
Originally Posted by Charlie Time
(Post 9018467)
It wasn't a case of getting lumbered - it was based on dstl analysis and formal approval by the MoD Camouflage Working Group.
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Originally Posted by Martin the Martian
(Post 9018452)
If I recall correctly, the high altitude scheme of medium sea grey with PRU blue undersides was developed for the high altitude Spitfires (Mks. VI and VII) from 1942. It was adopted for high altitude PR aircraft post war.
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I can't see how this is an effective camo scheme as it stands out, and as this is also a recce asset, the mounting of the optical sensors low on the airframe as opposed to mast or roof mounted, is a bit strange. On the other hand, it looks nice in piccys.
Seen at Otterburn last week. http://i58.tinypic.com/33usemw.jpg http://i60.tinypic.com/20rmohs.jpg http://i59.tinypic.com/vreja8.jpg |
Would look much nicer on 150 Blackhawks that can actually do the job:ugh:
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Seconded......
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There is no point having something to draw the fire away from the proper battle winning kit if the enemy cannot see it in the first place.....
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Would look much nicer on 150 Blackhawks that can actually do the job |
:ok: Many thanks, NutLoose, and if you can get hold of a copy of Britain Alone: The camouflage and markings of British military aircraft June 1940-December 1941 by Paul Lucas it's well worth a read regarding the development of the Day Fighter Scheme.
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Originally Posted by Dan Gerous
(Post 9019295)
I can't see how this is an effective camo scheme as it stands out, and as this is also a recce asset, the mounting of the optical sensors low on the airframe as opposed to mast or roof mounted, is a bit strange. .
Depends on where your operational environment is going to be and what your threat is. If your threat is fighters flying at a higher level, then a grey scheme over a green background is not good. However, if your intending that the aircraft is operated at a higher alltitude and the threat comes from ground based opponents, then a grey scheme is better. |
Kitbag - that's simple one is made by a manufacturer that's never built a successful helicopter and the other really is capable of carrying 8+ with their kit. Not sure what 'on paper' you are reading.
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MOSTAFA, I'll grant mine was a very 'Top Trumps' comparison, hence the rider 'on paper', the Sikorsky has by nature of ts home country a vast manufacturing base. I find your primary reason rather trite, though.
What does the SH-60, in your opinion, actually do better than Wildcat? |
Well you can swing a cat in the back:ugh: oh and the wipers work! The other stuff the fielding pilots tell me is certainly not for here.
My trite'ness, as you like to call it; incidentally, not a word I'd use to explain my total lack of confidence, might have something to do with several thousand hours of the other manufacturers very best and wishing all those years we'd bought the Blackhawks instead. It's that simple really. |
What does the SH-60, in your opinion, actually do better than Wildcat? |
Originally Posted by Martin the Martian
(Post 9018452)
If I recall correctly, the high altitude scheme of medium sea grey with PRU blue undersides was developed for the high altitude Spitfires (Mks. VI and VII) from 1942. It was adopted for high altitude PR aircraft post war.
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Diginagain, absolutely! I'm sure you can remember the Dannett interview telling of the conversation between Torpy and himself, that comes across as two bickering children. Hence, negative to Blackhawk.....oh well
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Originally Posted by Rotate too late
I'm sure you can remember the Dannett interview telling of the conversation between Torpy and himself, that comes across as two bickering children.
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So why's the gate guardian at Benson all over PRU blue? Was that an earlier scheme? |
The Wildcat cannot do high, high and heavy.
We could have bought three times as many Blackhawks for the same price, ten years ago. ie when we were at war and young lads were dying for suitable medivac. |
We could have bought three times as many Blackhawks for the same price, ten years ago. ie when we were at war and young lads were dying for suitable medivac. If we'd bought UH-60 off the shelf 10 years ago, how long would it have taken to field them? |
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