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Top Bunk Tester 27th Apr 2015 21:32

Nepal
 
God speed and best of luck to 99 Sqn and the Ghurka Engineers reported to be enroute to Nepal. I'm sure you'll do what HM Forces do best. :ok:

NutLoose 27th Apr 2015 21:43

Hear, hear, and I couldn't think of a better equipped and motivated people to be taking to the region to help than the Gurkhas.

Wander00 27th Apr 2015 22:17

Bon Voyage, and a safe return. They will do themselves and their nations proud

Tankertrashnav 28th Apr 2015 09:04

Well done the RAF :ok:

I only support two charities on a regular basis and one is the excellent local charity Shelterbox ( ShelterBox | Home ). They've already got people on the ground in Nepal assessing the scale of need and will very shortly be sending quantities of their fantastic boxes, each of which contains a simple shelter, cooking equipment etc.

Thats the sort of overseas aid I approve of - not the sort that lines the pockets of corrupt officials and pays "consultants" £800 a day.

ancientaviator62 28th Apr 2015 10:10

During Op Corporate the USAF flew into ASI what we called 'Concertina City'.
It was a complete accommodation set up with a generator. I have often wondered why something similar could not be provided for these relief operations. Totally agree about the criminal waste of our overseas aid budget.
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...psc97e8955.jpg

Pic is of 'Concertina City' accommodation at ASI.

Wander00 28th Apr 2015 10:10

At a Rotary dinner on Saturday and two French branches raised enough that night to pay for 2 shelterboxes. Very real, practical aid that lines no pockets on the way.

smujsmith 28th Apr 2015 17:35

Go 99 Sqdn,

The tradition of the Royal Air Force transport fleet is safe in your hands. It's good to see that at least the British people seem to have a wish to give as much support to the people of Nepal in this "worst of tragedies". Contrary to the government, who seem to think a derisory £5 mill. will suffice. I'd rather see some of that EU sub being given to them, by the £billion. Sorry for the political rant chaps, I think my feathers are unruffled now, rant mode off. Best of luck to all involved in Nepal, we can but hope that estimated losses are proven incorrect.

Smudge

Danny42C 28th Apr 2015 23:22

May be wrong, and I hope I am, but no (AFAIK) mention on BBC News yet of India lending a hand.

They are contiguous, and have plenty of helicopters, and I read (in the Sat "Tel") have Gurkha regiments in the Indian Army.

D.

ricardian 28th Apr 2015 23:31

TankerTrashNav - Have just read up on ShelterBox - I'd not heard of them before. Have set up a modest monthly Direct Debit as it seems to be good way of getting help directly to those who need it and not into the pockets of consultants, managers, etc (Also GiftAided my DD)

ion_berkley 28th Apr 2015 23:42


May be wrong, and I hope I am, but no (AFAIK) mention on BBC News yet of India lending a hand.

They are contiguous, and have plenty of helicopters, and I read (in the Sat "Tel") have Gurkha regiments in the Indian Army.

D.
Danny, the Indian military seem to be by far the biggest helpers so far in Nepal, lots of helicopters, field hospitals, rescue personal etc. Definitely pulling there weight on this one.

Always a Sapper 29th Apr 2015 00:14

Smudge

Agree totally there. IMHO, we as a country need to stand up and be seen to be helping Nepal big time, The people of Nepal (Gurkhas) have in the past helped us during times of 'difficulty' and theres a moral debt to be considered.

Good luck to the Queens Gurkha Engineers and 99 Sqn.

Trackmaster 29th Apr 2015 02:24

Two RAAF C-17s due to leave RAAF Amberley shortly bound for Nepal.
A Gurkha company has been training with the Australian army at Shoalwater Bay in Queensland.
I would not be surprised if they are heading home on the aircraft.

Robert Cooper 29th Apr 2015 02:31

Danny,

Nepal on Tuesday said India has led the relief and rescue operations being carried out in the quake-hit nation and was the first to rush aid to the people. Nepal’s Ambassador to India Deepak Kumar Upadhyay said there has been “unbelievable support and assistance” from India and the assurance of help from the Indian government has been like a “blank cheque.” The Ambassador said though countries like the United States, China and Israel have been quick with relief material and help, the Nepalese people have received “overwhelming love and support” from India immediately after the quake hit on Saturday.

Can't always trust the BBC.

Bob C

SaddamsLoveChild 29th Apr 2015 02:57

landing fees....
 

Originally Posted by Tankertrashnav (Post 8958481)
Well done the RAF :ok:

I only support two charities on a regular basis and one is the excellent local charity Shelterbox ( ShelterBox | Home ). They've already got people on the ground in Nepal assessing the scale of need and will very shortly be sending quantities of their fantastic boxes, each of which contains a simple shelter, cooking equipment etc.

Thats the sort of overseas aid I approve of - not the sort that lines the pockets of corrupt officials and pays "consultants" £800 a day.

So why yet again is HM got being charged an extortionate amount for landing fees and services.......did we learn nothing from the Pakistan fiasco......having worked for the UN alongside NGO'S such as Oxfam I saw first hand the financial waste they spend on air fairs (business class) and will be directing my money to UK charities. Extortionate landing fees for aid aircraft have to stop.

ancientaviator62 29th Apr 2015 06:35

'Extortianate fees' for aid aircraft are nothing new. I have told this tale on the Hercules thread but will precis it here. When I was involved with 48 Sqn out of Changi in 1970 we did relief ops to East Pakistan,now Bangladesh.
When we landed there the customs wanted to charge us duty on the aid supplies, the fuel in our tanks and the oil in the engines. They also tried to insist that before we airdropped aid we had to land and offload the stores for inspection and assessment of duty.

Tankertrashnav 29th Apr 2015 09:03

Nothing new in this landing fees business. During WW1 the UK government had to pay a fee to the French Railway companies for use of their tracks to take troop trains from the Channel ports to the battle areas, in spite of the fact most of the rolling stock and locomotives had been sent across from Britain !

ricardian pleased to hear that. The way I do it is to sell stuff on ebay and donate the money directly to Shelterbox. Ebay waives 100% of its fees if you donate all the proceeds of the sale to a nominated charity.

NutLoose 29th Apr 2015 17:18

I must admit I'd never heard of Shelterbox either, but Ihaving visited their site I am mega impressed with both the idea and the concept, all started by a local rotary club. I also like the idea that along with essentials such as shelter, light and water purification, it also includes basic tools to allow those effected to help themselves.
I too will send a modest donation to such a worthy cause.

higthepig 29th Apr 2015 18:03

Again, thank you for the ShelterBox steer, I was blissfully unaware of their work, a donation has been sent and a direct debit set up as a result.

victor tango 29th Apr 2015 18:48

I salute you RAF Chinook chaps.

Please God look after you in your mission.

I had a thought years ago.....where I got a state of the art air balloon and under slung it with a unit that was a self contained, efficient operating theater.

I envisaged it to rapidly respond to huge motorway pile up's, negating the need for emergency vehicles having to travel miles to the incident through traffic congested routes.

There are obvious connections to the Nepal situation.

I thought of emailing Richard Branson as I felt he would, like him or not, be the one person to possibly get this "off the ground" rather than some faceless person from the "Ministry".

Mechta 29th Apr 2015 21:13

Victor Tango, The Sikorsky CH-64 Skycrane had a specially designed drop-off mission pod, which could be configured as a mobile hospital along the lines of what you describe. It was self contained, air-conditioned and fitted with an X-ray unit, blood bank and lab unit.

Description & video here:



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