Royal air force 63 and 19 squadron leaders from 1980 until 1994
 

Hello my name is john karslake i live in Braunton in North Devon i travel the mostly in the uk during the year as a spotter of military avation i log and photograph aircraft from various countries whilst they visit the uk. I am currently doing a small private project on the bae hawk during the years 1980 to 1994 whilst the hawk was being operated out of Raf chivenor this project includes both photographic and written. Any photographs that you might have during this period of years would be most helpful and i would ask your permision to use them before they went on display. When project is complete it will be loaned out to the local museum for public display in my home town of Braunton in North Devon to mark 20 years since the hawk aircraft left Raf chivenor. Some of the information i have already researched myself regarding some written and photographic information on the history of 151 and 92 squadrons of the Raf during there time as hawk squadrons at Raf chivenor. What i would like to next is to continue this project and i am looking for any names of the squadron leaders from 63 and 19 squadrons of the Raf during there time in command of these squadrons at Raf chivenor from August 1980 when chivenor started to recieve the hawk jet and the eventual departure of the hawk jet from Raf chivenor in 1995. :)

Squadron Leader is a rank.

I think you mean the posts of Officer Commanding 19 and 63 Sqn. Which doesn't have to be a Sqn Ldr, it can be a Wing Commander. In fact I cant think of any flying sqn now where the Officer Commanding isn't a Wing Commander?

chiv hawk, I hope that your project doesn't require any written input :ugh:

gr4, essential correct on Sqn Cdrs but don't forget the UASs

P L E A S E can we have R A F?

Come to that, I thought Chivenor deserved a capital C.

Surely nobody doing serious research is in that much of a hurry?

LB, he has such low personal esteem, or cr@p written skills, that he doesn't even use capital letters for his own name or the 'perpendicular pronoun', as Sir Humphrey would say. What chance do we stand for any respect for the Royal Air Force (RAF)? Also great research so far on Royal Air Force ranks and posts :ok:

Exascot,
Sqn Ldr RAF (Ret'd)

Last post; Flt Cdr - that will confuse him.

'Can't think of any Flying Squadron where the CO isn't a Wg Cdr' 60 and 84 are two that spring to mind.

Exascot: my late father was very proud of his service in WW II, i/c a barrage balloon as an LAC RAFVR from the defence of Coventry in the Blitz to the Suez Canal to shipboard for the D Day Landings.

NEVER EVER let me hear you say raf!

Yes dad.

Never!

Steady on chaps...
 

.....normally I'm a paid up member of the grammar police. Aren't you being just a leetle bitty harsh on the guy?

anyhoo, nobody has come up with any names - may I chip in with Buggs Bendell who handed over to Tim Gawain (sp?) during the 19 Sqn APC at St Mawgan in 1979-ish??

The Ancient Mariner

Chiv hawk, sorry for the brutal reception here. Nothing personal, it's normal. There is a lot of knowledge for you in the heads of the members here. It will come.

To the rest of you, cut the guy some slack and stop behaving like arseholes. (Sorry, not ALL, but you know who you are.)

There was a thread some months ago where we managed to piece together most, if not all, of the Sqn Cdrs. Can anyone recall it? That may help.

I'll search for some links and photos.

Seconded, I couldn't believe the replies he got... :=

One hopes someone can help you with some answers

Could you be more specific? Maybe a link? I recall Chiv-related threads before, but not a specific one by CH.

CM & NL with the greatest of respect gentleman yes, I am guilty, but whatever happened to research before 'foot in the mouth' insulting the Royal Air Force?

CM you are correct you will see that he has started at least two other threads in the past about this.

When researching for academic papers or presentations one gets nomenclature in order before approaching proffesionals on a subject. Rule one. Then we at least have the roots of a reasonable research project.

OK Chiv Hawk provide us with references and cross references to all your research so far and I will then believe that you are serious.

In the timescale he is asking about, the Sqn bosses were Sqn Ldrs.

Courtney - it's here: http://www.pprune.org/military-aviat...-chivenor.html

Exascot, forgive me. I didn't think any intentional insult had been issued. Maybe nothing more than not understanding our sensibilities. But there is obviously some history here that have either not seen, forgotten or been stupidly unaware of.

BN, thanks for the link. I'll have a look and it may help the OP.

I'm clearly missing something here, I think.

As one of the Chivenor Squadron Commanders during this period I can perhaps forgive an illiterate youngster who is possible as keen as mustard :ok:

If I can help............................
 

I have taken the liberty of slightly amending the original input, perhaps, to satisfy the spelling/grammar police. I hope that I have not changed the intent of the OP, but I also hope that you will get the input that you are seeking.

Although my time at Chivenor preceded the timescale that is of interest to you, I absolutely loved my time there, and I only regret that the Royal Air Force saw fit to leave.

Any record of the RAF presence at what was, probably, the best RAF station of its time, deserves a fair wind, in my opinion.

Hello.

My name is John Karslake. I live in Braunton, North Devon. I travel mostly in the UK during the year as a spotter of military aviation. I log and photograph aircraft from various countries when they visit the UK. I am currently doing a small private project on the BAe Hawk during the years 1980 to 1994 when the Hawk was being operated at RAF Chivenor. This project includes both photographic and written inputs. Any photographs that you might have covering this period would be most helpful and, if you can send me any information or photographs, then I would ask your permission to use them before they went on display. When the project is complete, it will be loaned to the local museum for public display in my home town of Braunton, North Devon, to mark 20 years since the Hawk left RAF Chivenor. Some of the information I already have includes some written and photographic information on the history of 151 Sqn and 92 Sqn during their time as Hawk squadrons at RAF Chivenor. What I would like to do next in continuing this project is to list the names of the squadron commanders from 63 Sqn and 19 Sqn during their time in command at RAF Chivenor from August 1980, when Chivenor started to receive the Hawk, and the eventual departure of the Hawk from RAF Chivenor in 1995.

Any help that you can give me would be much appreciated.

Chiv hawk,

Good luck with your project. It's nice to see a member of the public spending so much of their own time recognising the RAF in one's community.

Er........

sharpend
 

:= You just might wish to edit your comment before declaring illiteracy in others!! :=

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chiv - good on you buddy. Be merciless with this lot and tap them up for all the information they have. Between them they could tell you everything that ever happened in the RAF - some of them were there at the inception.:)