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Wokkafans 21st Oct 2015 08:07

Possibly he may have been a bit too outspoken about some of the choppy choppy types in the ME?

CoffmanStarter 21st Oct 2015 08:09

Agree with Courtney, OS and Wander ... Fox3 is sorely missed by the regular CapComp Crew :(

Odanrot 21st Oct 2015 10:00

Remember it all too well, really disrupted day-to-day training and the producer/director was a PITA left-wing pinko.

Most of the Valley Hawk flying was done by the staff, very little was student flying and I spent kin hours at high level looking for trails so he could shoot the opening sequence where the roundel appears with the trailing Hawk.

My a... is still sore.

It had the potential to be a very good programme but the directors personal agenda spoilt it and the RAF and the poor studes he followed suffered as a result. The Navy's version, Warship was much better.

ExRAFRadar 21st Oct 2015 11:05

I would like to have seen the chap who wanted to join 'For the glamour' get selected for training.

Would have been fun watching him get through.

pr00ne 21st Oct 2015 11:16

odanrot,

The "Director/Producer" wrote a book about it, didn't come across as anything like you suggest, or is it that he's just not a foaming at the mouth right wing nut job?

Ken Scott 21st Oct 2015 12:42

pr00ne: are you implying that anyone who's pro-military has those characteristics?

Odanrot 21st Oct 2015 15:55

Pr00ne. No he was more the quiet Jeremy Corbyn type. Now that was 3 quid well spent.

pr00ne 21st Oct 2015 16:27

Odanrot,

A nice guy then.

Ken Scott,

Are you?

charliegolf 21st Oct 2015 17:03

This thread made me youtube the whole thing earlier. Whining to an airship about leave (and admitting that the leave was a big + in joining) must've gone down well; and well done McCrae- but I wonder how many innocent people slit their wrists due to close contact with him! He smiled once, but it was confirmed subsequently as a bad attack of wind. I bet he got nada on the side when he was a milkie!

CG

SpannerInTheWerks 21st Oct 2015 17:49

Yes, watched it myself a few months ago.

I flew with one of the instructors in a different life - he played Father Christmas in an episode of 'Airline".

Always had a personal 'bar' available for 'room parties' (much to my cost!!!) :}

newt 21st Oct 2015 17:50

His comments about preferring to live off base ensured that the AOC ordered them all back to their rooms in the Mess!:ugh:

wiggy 21st Oct 2015 17:50


well done McCrae- but I wonder how many innocent people slit their wrists due to close contact with him!
:=

I was on the same 6 month long CFS JP course as John and I don't think we lost anyone along the way, even in the bar, even after after a few beers. It was very interesting hearing his stories of how exactly some of those scenes (especially the one about leave and the one about living off base) were manufactured.... if the production team deliberately pee people off for long enough, especially on a Friday night and keep the cameras rolling they'll get some stuff worth using.......


I bet he got nada on the side when he was a milkie!
Goes to show JM was right when he said to me one point "funny how everyone remembers I was a milkman, no-one remembers I'm a graduate....."

charliegolf 21st Oct 2015 18:14


no-one remembers I'm a graduate....."
Was that even mentioned?

CG

ExRAFRadar 21st Oct 2015 18:22

As an aside if I recall correctly you 'only' needed 5 O levels back in the day to be able to apply for Pilot.

Am I correct?

Would 5 GCSE's get me in now if so? :)

Back on topic, sort of, getting a degree and then going to work as a milkman hardly stamps you as someone dying to fly fast jets does it?

And I fully expect flak for that sentence.

ExRAFRadar 21st Oct 2015 18:25

And this is probably been covered before but cannot be bothered to search. Sorry.

Was there any pressure from the Higher-Up's to get someone on FJ's from the Officers that were filmed just to show the RAF in a good light?

SpannerInTheWerks 21st Oct 2015 18:34

The man I'm talking about was slated for giving the worst instruction during one of the approaches?!

Great bloke in my experience!

:)

Odanrot 21st Oct 2015 19:23

As an aside if I recall correctly you 'only' needed 5 O levels back in the day to be able to apply for Pilot.

Am I correct?

Would 5 GCSE's get me in now if so?

Back on topic, sort of, getting a degree and then going to work as a milkman hardly stamps you as someone dying to fly fast jets does it?

And I fully expect flak for that sentence.

One of the best pilots I met was a "Sheet Metal Worker" before he joined up.

Onceapilot 21st Oct 2015 21:03

Hmmm, I think the series shows, pretty much, the way it was. Good and bad.
Some good filming. And, yes I did go through it myself at the time!:p:p

OAP

BEagle 21st Oct 2015 21:40

I encountered the BBC luvvies and that 'Director/Producer' at Valley when I was doing a Hawk refresher course.

The Director/Producer came across as a typical BBC pinko, but not as loathsome as pr00ne's fellow traveller Comrade Corbychev.....:yuk:

Lima Juliet 21st Oct 2015 21:53

Derr...


As an aside if I recall correctly you 'only' needed 5 O levels back in the day to be able to apply for Pilot.

Am I correct?

Would 5 GCSE's get me in now if so?
Nope, thanks to Nu Liabor's "everyones' a winner" education system then only A-levels will crack it.

LJ


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