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West Coast 29th Jan 2015 05:15

official, new AF 1 selected.
 
No great shock to anyone I imagine.

Pentagon picks new Air Force One plane - CNN.com

Martin the Martian 29th Jan 2015 09:35

Move along, nothing to see here, I guess.

Pontius Navigator 29th Jan 2015 10:02

Wonder if Airbus would like to offer an A380 for a similar role in the EU.

glad rag 29th Jan 2015 10:55

""NEW"


ROFL...

MPN11 29th Jan 2015 16:52

A380 far too big for many airports. POTUS wouldn't be able to drop in for a campaigning visit [sorry, meaningful discussions] using one of them.

Carry on, Boeing ... you know it makes some sense. The fleet of other aircraft that have to accompany Barry are built by you as well, aren't they?

Pontius Navigator 29th Jan 2015 17:51

MPN, not POTUS but POTEU or UEDuP or some such. :)

MPN11 29th Jan 2015 19:35

Haha .. POTEU will deffo have an A360 for the combination of range and flexibility. And demand an upper deck for the comms crew :cool:

I wonder who flies TB around these days? Does he succumb to commercial, or has some oily oerson lent him a large private jet? Or does he just sit at home(s) and 'work' by Skype?

Pontius Navigator 29th Jan 2015 19:54

MPN, the latter.

He uses a Bombadier.

Former prime minister Tony gets a £30m Blair Force One - Telegraph

The advantage of using a little jet is privacy. He can say there is no capacity for journalists from the gutter press such the Times, Telegraph, Garudian etc.

West Coast 30th Jan 2015 00:24

http://theaviationist.com/2015/01/29...-picks-b747-8/

Artist's rendition of what it may look like. It's a big bastard...

Turbine D 30th Jan 2015 00:47


Wonder if Airbus would like to offer an A380 for a similar role in the EU.
They probably would if the EU became the "Leader of The Free World" :cool:

Big Pistons Forever 30th Jan 2015 03:27

Airbus declined to bid becausea condition of the contract was the aircraft had to be built in the USA

Avionker 30th Jan 2015 08:31


""NEW"


ROFL...
Gladrag, what exactly is amusing about that?

Pontius Navigator 30th Jan 2015 09:54

Turbine D, aren't we?

We certainly didn't vote for your leader.

Define Free World?

Heathrow Harry 30th Jan 2015 11:22

"Gladrag, what exactly is amusing about that?"

well in 40 years it will probably be still in service and attracting as many plane spotters as politician spotters as you don't see many 85 year old designs still in front line use (excepting, as always, the DC-3)

Bit the same as if Mrs Merkel turned up in a Ju-52/3m.............

quaint but not exactly cutting edge image

Martin the Martian 30th Jan 2015 13:52

Airbus would not have bid even if it wasn't required to be built in the US. Who remembers the VH-71 and the KC-45? I'm sure they do.

KenV 30th Jan 2015 14:29


HH...you don't see many 85 year old designs still in front line use...
HMMMMM. The B-52 is very much still in "front line use" and it's first flight was way back in 1952 and was (loosely) based on a 1946 design. The NEWEST B-52 was built back in 1962. The BUFF will still be flying well into the middle of this century. It's already a third generation bomber (3rd generation in that 3 generations of pilots have flown the same tail number aircraft.) and will likely be a fifth or sixth generation bomber before it is finally retired.

As for the 747-8 not providing a "cutting edge image", name ANY airliner that would provide a more "cutting edge image".

Pontius Navigator 30th Jan 2015 15:41


As for the 747-8 not providing a "cutting edge image", name ANY airliner that would provide a more "cutting edge image".
787?

Flew in one, loved it.

KenV 30th Jan 2015 16:06


787?
1. Too small & not enough engines. USAF demands 4 engines.

2. 95%+ of people would not know the difference between a 787 and any other widebody twin-jet.

And separately, the 747-8 has new wings, engines, avionics, flight controls, and lots more. The only thing not new and "cutting edge" is the familiar (and arguably iconic) humped shape of the fuselage. While most airliners all look alike, the 747 is immediately recognizable (OK, the DC-10/MD-11's shape is also kind of unique and easy to recognize.)

salad-dodger 30th Jan 2015 16:28

KenV, you said (your bold):

name ANY airliner that would provide a more "cutting edge image
PN said 787. I would have added A350 to that too.

S-D

chopper2004 30th Jan 2015 16:43

Best of luck, then...point of entry is 4/5 years before HMX-1 fully equipped with the VH-92?

Here is an excellent documentary on AF1 by National Geographic, best part is Bush Jnr#s Thanksgiving secret mission into Baghdad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdqIvFOKyGY


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