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Bill4a 12th Oct 2014 12:28

As a retired Boggy could I be permitted to point out that a Sergeant is an officer of the non commissioned variety.
It looks like somebody is trying to put the services in a bad light, who next, the Navy?

TEEEJ 12th Oct 2014 19:05

Graham was a Linguist (ROV later CSA(V)). Same trade as spy Geoffrey Prime who also sexually abused children.

Geoffrey Prime - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

RAF Linguist board.

Eddie Graham

Free forum : Gatow Old Boys

Al R 13th Oct 2014 05:42

The Telegraph not only was clueless, but it also couldn't make its mind up. It described Sgt Stephen Brunell as 'an officer' and then 'a senior officer'.

Injured RAF officer served for a year thinking broken neck was pulled muscle - Telegraph

goudie 13th Oct 2014 08:55

To be fair it does eventually describe him as a senior non-commissioned officer
These days even police constables are addressed as 'officer'

Whenurhappy 13th Oct 2014 13:18

Vetting worked, didn't it?

Pontius Navigator 13th Oct 2014 14:07

WUH, I know you know but for others

Vetting, if valid, is valid only for the day it is granted.

Remember too that the confessional was absolute; tell the confessor and you were fire proof until otherwise outed as certain senior officers discovered.

I was once called as a referee as the subject had not provided satisfactory ones.

The subject had one aim which was to spend every penny he earned to stop his ex getting anything in the divorce. Secondary wad bonking a nurse from PMRAFNS. Very simple, straight as a die, didn't drink and rather anti-social. In fact the ideal prospect. The plod could not get his head around that.

Whenurhappy 13th Oct 2014 14:59


Remember too that the confessional was absolute; tell the confessor and you were fire proof until otherwise outed as certain senior officers discovered.
Not so now. Buried deep within NSV Vision and Mission statements and other supporting Corporate bumpf there something to the effect of:

'Yeah, I know you think this is confidential, but if I think that other people should know how depraved you are, assuredly they will be told'

Old Bricks 14th Oct 2014 12:32

Vetting
 
It has always been the case that there is no point in being a spy/traitor unless you are highly vetted, otherwise you don't have access to anything worth selling or giving away to the other side!

Haraka 14th Oct 2014 13:04

...or conversely of such a low profile that nobody thinks you could possibly be a risk.





" Wot ?, "

"Our Doris the cleaning lady!!!!!"

ValMORNA 14th Oct 2014 20:31

The deaf-and-dumb (sorry, politically incorrect) Chinese cleaning staff were obviously above suspicion at an RAF facility in Hong Kong, otherwise they would not have been permitted to enter sensitive areas. Yeah, right!

Tankertrashnav 14th Oct 2014 22:51

We used to reckon that old Pop, the cleaner who did the squadron offices at Marham, a harmless seeming little old bloke, was probably a long standing mole and in reality a KGB major (with a convincing Norfolk accent) just keeping his eyes and ears open.

nutnurse 15th Oct 2014 00:04

I gather as far as Clinton went, the ambiguity was the word 'sex'. A cigar is one thing, John Thomas is another.

teeteringhead 15th Oct 2014 10:07


I gather as far as Clinton went, the ambiguity was the word 'sex'. A cigar is one thing, John Thomas is another.
Moreover, as I understand they put it in the Southern States:

"Eatin' ain't cheatin'" ......... :E

Pontius Navigator 15th Oct 2014 14:02


Originally Posted by Haraka (Post 8697125)
" Wot ?, "

"Our Doris the cleaning lady!!!!!"

She got a CBE after the war according to Nicholas Soames (and an MBE a the time she learnt it).

TEEEJ 12th Nov 2014 21:42

BBC News - Ex-RAF officer Eddie Graham sentenced to 13 years for child abuse

GreenKnight121 13th Nov 2014 02:16

While your point is true, your example is not.

The actual full statement, before being edited down for shortness by the media, was: "I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky."

He did specify who he was referring to.

baffman 13th Nov 2014 11:14

The civilian composition of the CM board was mentioned earlier. Where the accused is a civilian but is not ex-Service, the board should be entirely civilian. Where the accused is ex-Service, the court may consist of either civilian lay members or Service lay members, or be a mixed board.

Someone else queried how such a board could have dealt with classified information. Regardless of the accused's former employment I don't see why this CM would have needed to hear classified information, but if that was ever an issue there should be no difficulty forming a board of adequately cleared defence civilians.


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