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NutLoose 3rd Oct 2014 11:22

It would appear the Tristars are off to the States
 
see

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.p...75486342562773

bcgallacher 3rd Oct 2014 13:29

Worked with Tristars with RB211 524 in Saudi then with 22B - Every pilot that flew them loved them. To maintain them was a different story - required much more attention than a 747,accessibility was poor,hydraulic fittings a nightmare. The APU was an abortion and did not like high ambient temperatures. Pneumatic ducting was fragile and they required a large spares holding. Did more gear swings (retraction tests) than with any other aircraft - usually after a phase control valve change. A very comfortable aircraft to fly in but why anybody would want to operate them now I do not know. If they do get into service it will not be for long.

salad-dodger 3rd Oct 2014 13:59

yes Nuts, you started a thread on the subject in May:
S-D

NutLoose 3rd Oct 2014 14:03

Yes but they have now been marked up with US N Numbers and the RAF stuff painted over, you wouldn't do that unless they were moving.

thegypsy 3rd Oct 2014 14:34

A shame 411A is no longer with us as he would be in his element over this.

salad-dodger 3rd Oct 2014 15:07


Yes but they have now been marked up with US N Numbers and the RAF stuff painted over, you wouldn't do that unless they were moving.
or you wanted to sell the parts from an aircraft off the civil register?

S-D

NutLoose 3rd Oct 2014 15:15

To who? who operates them?

Rhino power 3rd Oct 2014 15:20

This is who have registered them... :::: CSDS Aircraft Sales and Leasing. ::::

-RP

Old Fella 4th Oct 2014 12:33

Every pilot who flew them loved them
 
Not only the pilots loved them , most FE's thought they were pretty good as well. Going into the B747 was like getting back into a dog kennel after being in the L1011.

Brian W May 4th Oct 2014 12:41

Yep, must admit the Tristar was the best 'office' for me (FE), by a country mile.

Enjoyed AAR too, with the highly modified fuel panel.

Onceapilot 4th Oct 2014 14:45

Well ballacher, you must be talking about a different aircraft? The TriStar APU in RAF service was a fantastic bit of kit.
Good luck to these jets if they get to fly again. Pity they are gone.:ouch: But hey! Whats a few £Bn wasted on a new fleet that should not have been needed yet...not that we could do with VFM or anything!:oh:

OAP

fergineer 5th Oct 2014 04:12

Gotta agree best flight deck for FE's by far

Onceapilot 5th Oct 2014 08:38

Best 500,000lb class aircraft ever!:D

OAP

Wander00 5th Oct 2014 09:06

Probably a stupid question but where do they find civilian Tri* rated pilots for the ferry flights?

bcgallacher 5th Oct 2014 10:53

Onceapilot - you must have been involved with some really bad APUs if you consider the Tristar unit to be a good one - it's one good point was that it was easy to change. The GTCP 660 in the 747 was far better. All the components could be replaced without dropping the unit and were easily accessible. It also has 2 generators - (most operators.) The Tristar speed and pneumatic control systems were unreliable I could go on and on!

Onceapilot 5th Oct 2014 11:33

Why ballacher, do you belong to the ranks of the "slag the TriStar gang"? :) What was your military type background if you don't mind saying?

OAP

ShotOne 5th Oct 2014 13:09

"Best 500,000lb class aircraft ever..??" Really OAP? That's a big claim. I'm emphatically NOT in the slag the Tristar gang but it had become economically unviable for the job it was designed for even when the RAF bought them. That's the reason it was so cheap.

Onceapilot 5th Oct 2014 13:30

Of course it is a big claim. It is my opinion, based on two decades of experience with it and, its superb safety record.:D
Thankyou, Mr Lockheed !:ok:

OAP

West Coast 5th Oct 2014 15:25


Probably a stupid question but where do they find civilian Tri* rated pilots for the ferry flights?
Wondered the same. The Sands Hotel corporation in Las Vegas operated two -1011's up until recently (now in storage) so perhaps they might have had the personnel required.

Al R 5th Oct 2014 16:30

When they were flown into Abingdon 30+ years ago, I seem to remember someone telling me that a few French pilots ferried them in gear down all the way, without proper comms etc - they were cleared for the one flight only due to their slightly precarious condition, having been laid up for so long. Any truth in that?


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