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fire3 25th Sep 2014 09:39

Jaguar Overwing Pylons
 
The RAF Manston History Museum is still open despite the uncertain future of the airfield, we are currently looking for a set of overawing pylons for our Jaguar GR3A XZ106 which is currently being restored.

Does anyone know of where we might be able to source a set?

Id also love to hear from anyone who has flown XZ106.

Kindest Regards

Fire3

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Madbob 25th Sep 2014 10:26

Fire3

I have no connection with this organisation but perhaps worth a call...

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct...j0F7UlcjMPys9w



Good luck

MB
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Tiger_mate 25th Sep 2014 11:42

There are several sets stored in hangar 5 at RAF Cosford which are not used. Getting a pair gifted is another matter; but a letter to the CRO at Cosford might be a good start.

Thelma Viaduct 25th Sep 2014 12:02

What's the story behind the overwing pylons? They look a bit adhoc.

fire3 25th Sep 2014 12:04

Thanks for the reply's

Madbob - That is where out Jag was purchased, they haven't got any pylons unfortunately.

Tiger_mate - Do you have any contact details for Cosford?

Thanks again

Fire3

CoffmanStarter 25th Sep 2014 12:12

Contact details ... Google is your friend ... :ok:

RAF Cosford - Contact us

fire3 25th Sep 2014 12:24

Many thanks for that fingers crossed they can help.

noprobs 25th Sep 2014 13:33

I flew it a few times between 1993 and 95 at Coltishall. It was a GR1A during that period. Though it may have been a 6 Sqn jet, support for overseas detachments meant that aircraft were often shared across the Wing.

NutLoose 25th Sep 2014 14:27

Thought they replaced the wing fences which you have, if you want to stick sidewinders on it, shove them on an underwing pylon.

Trinity Marine BTW had Phimat dispensers a while back for not a lot of money, though you'd need a ECM pod to stick on the port outer.

Nice to see a different scheme BTW

fire3 25th Sep 2014 14:40

We have been trying to source a ECM Pod, we do have a Phimat already fitted to the Stdb Side.

LowObservable 25th Sep 2014 14:48

The story behind them is that if you have a teeny tiny wing you rather quickly run out of space underneath it. Harry Hillaker (Mr F-16) used to cite that as a limit to design growth (thrust and weight increases) and said that the appearance of any kind of load above the waterline meant that you were maxed out.

Related:

1978 | 2098 | Flight Archive

garyscott 25th Sep 2014 17:11

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Unsure if they can help, but you never know?

Bob Viking 25th Sep 2014 17:18

Fire3
 
The overwing pylons were basically an Urgent Operational Requirement for self defence during Gulf War 1. As far as I'm concerned I don't know why more jets don't do the same. It's a largely untapped resource, but why stop there? What about the side of the tailfin? Definite growth potential there.;)
Anyway having checked my logbook I flew it four times in 2004/5 as a GR3a. It came to Magic Carpet with us in Oman (6 Sqn) and is then conspicuous by it's absence in my logbook which may mean it was retired shortly afterwards.
BV:(

LowObservable 25th Sep 2014 17:45

Adopted by UK in DS, but developed rather earlier:

1976 | 0261 | Flight Archive

Alber Ratman 25th Sep 2014 18:00

RAF Cosford give a set away? Unlikely seeing that they will be on somebodies inventory and on the computer system. If they are disposed of, it will be via the DSA to the component dealers. Who will charge a fortune and will not move on the price seeing they may be able to sell them back to the MoD or to India at some point. :(


Check out AVSpares .. If you have a part number for them. Bet most are sitting with ASL.. Got 10K spare for each?


Getting Pylons in general is a nightmare. I was quoted 12K for an ERU. They all went to ASL. Get anything off the MoD for free? No chance unless its the RAFM or IWM.

NutLoose 25th Sep 2014 18:41

Other suggestion is

Company Overview - Air and GroundAir and Ground

They hold a lot of ex raf stuff, though they just scrapped a load of Lynx and Hercs.

fire3 25th Sep 2014 19:00

Thankyou everyone for the replays, i have sent a few emails off today so fingers crossed something comes up.

Does anyone have any pictures XZ106 in service?

garyscott 25th Sep 2014 19:37

Bit of a googley . .

http://www.airplane-pictures.net/ima.../29/159797.jpg

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviatio.../2/0565200.jpg

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviatio.../9/0767964.jpg

http://sg-etuo.de/media/pics/XZ106_2..._2Sqn_bell.jpg

There are more about, none of these images are mine.

:ok:

Coltishall. loved it 25th Sep 2014 19:49

I hear “Omans” Jags are coming to the end (postage a bit steep no doubt!)
Just admiring the 1200ltr dropper and remembering when jacking you had to remove a tank fin. And obviously replace it after? There are Jag drop tank fins scattered around the world. (Early ones had fixed fins so had to remove the whole tank)

NutLoose 25th Sep 2014 22:31

Droppers at Bruggen use to grow like mushrooms, you looked in the woods around Sqn dispersals and there were hundreds off them, poly bags bodged taped over the connections awaiting the war that never came.


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