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claron 22nd Aug 2014 13:59

Tornado at 40.
 
Did I miss it, or whilst we celebrate the Hawks 40th anniversary. the Tornado slipped through the net.

1st flight 14th August 1974, and still going.:D

LOMCEVAK 22nd Aug 2014 14:02

Claron,

Spot on although the first airframe to fly, P01, is not still flying. What is also special about the Hawk is that the first airframe to fly is still going after 40 years.

Rhino power 22nd Aug 2014 14:08

The RAF's effort to commemorate the occasion, using ZD788...


http://i804.photobucket.com/albums/y...ps18m4rvu7.jpg

Also, a better side on view at the following link.

http://forum.tornadosig.com/topic/7229168/1/

-RP

Courtney Mil 22nd Aug 2014 14:10

Oh dear, RP. They put a lot of effort into that, didn't they?

Rhino power 22nd Aug 2014 14:14

Back of a fag packet during a coffee break I think, CM. I know it's a nod towards the prototype's colours but, surely something better could've been designed?

-RP

MAINJAFAD 22nd Aug 2014 15:07

Before you guys knock it, actually come up with a design that meet the tight regulations that cover what schemes British military aircraft can be painted in at a reasonable price. Yes other air forces do better and more complicated designs, but they are prepared to pay somebody to do the artwork and don't have so many rules on what can and can't be done. RP is correct in that the scheme is based on that of the first prototype as far as the regulations allow.

Willard Whyte 22nd Aug 2014 15:16

Pfff. Regulations*.

Just paint it identically to the original prototype. It isn't going to fall out of the sky because of the colour scheme.

*Okay, maybe leave off the Luftwaffe insignia.

reds & greens 22nd Aug 2014 15:41

I'm sorry, but after 40 glorious years of front line use as a theatre workhorse where allowed, this is a tragically pathetic reflection to mark the occasion.

27mm 22nd Aug 2014 18:23

Ah, yes, but something we Brits do rather well......

Willard Whyte 22nd Aug 2014 18:24

Abstract thought has never really been encouraged in the military. Im sure most of us could come up with half a dozen different schemes. Would that I had any ability at using a computer to render them though...

Typhoon93 22nd Aug 2014 18:28

I agree with RG.

This aircraft has saved many, many, many coalition lives since the day it entered operational service, and even to this very day it is still saving lives on the front line on Op Herrick.

Oh well - I guess because it doesn't hover, it doesn't deserve as much recognition. Very sad. A truly underrated aircraft, in my view. I love the Tonka!

MPN11 22nd Aug 2014 18:30

There was a time, in the distant past when 216 flew pretty VIP Comet 4s, that they proposed a new scheme for them ... based loosely on the Rothman's cigarette packet. That didn't happen either, although the draft looked lovely.

Sadly I agree .. the Tornado scheme is limp, wimp and utterly uninspiring. Doodling on the fin is cheap, of course: a full repaint job could cost several minutes of a VSO's salary.

NutLoose 22nd Aug 2014 19:16


MAINJAFAD Before you guys knock it, actually come up with a design that meet the tight regulations that cover what schemes British military aircraft can be painted in at a reasonable price. Yes other air forces do better and more complicated designs, but they are prepared to pay somebody to do the artwork and don't have so many rules on what can and can't be done. RP is correct in that the scheme is based on that of the first prototype as far as the regulations allow.
Actually some of them are done for free by artists, one chap designed the Diana the huntress scheme, the Stb fin she is pointing her arrow down to show their bomber past, and on the other side she is showing as air to air.
He airbrushed it on over several days, see

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Flap62 22nd Aug 2014 19:20

Have any of the posters on here spent the last 8 years in cryogenic suspension?

We're collapsing to 6 front line squadrons! 6!

And you're suggesting spending lots of time and money for what purpose?

Good effort for a great aircraft. Now move along people and let's look at the real world.

NutLoose 22nd Aug 2014 19:30

You could have put the theatres and squadrons along the spine :)

mr fish 22nd Aug 2014 20:39

just a quick question....is the VG concept dead.?




FISH.

glad rag 22nd Aug 2014 20:56


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 8620211)
You could have put the theatres and squadrons along the spine :)

Yep.
I wasn't quite in at the very start [but close behind] of the RAF Tornado's service [the proper bomber version that is] and I can honestly say that I wish that they really just hadn't bothered with that abortion of a paint scheme, however well intentioned.

I mean just look what the kra er Germans do FFS

Onceapilot 22nd Aug 2014 21:13

Tornado, what a workhorse! The ability to plough through bad weather at low level was a step change, coupled with an integrated computerised nav/attack system...what a beauty! Enjoyed every moment flying it! Thanks to everyone involved! :ok:

OAP

Willard Whyte 22nd Aug 2014 21:59


And you're suggesting spending lots of time and money for what purpose?

Good effort for a great aircraft. Now move along people and let's look at the real world.
A: 'lots of time'? Ballocks, it wouldn't take much time to better that effort.

B: 'lots of money'? How much is paint? Just don't get it from BAES. Besides, bound to be some of various colours in stores.

C: Why? because that P.O.S. is an embarrassment.

D. Pathetic and typically unimaginative dullard blinkered effort for a great aircraft.

Don't tell people what to do without having reversed the plexiotomy. Move along? **** off sonny.

glad rag 22nd Aug 2014 22:04


Originally Posted by Onceapilot (Post 8620329)
Tornado, what a workhorse! The ability to plough through bad weather at low level was a step change, coupled with an integrated computerised nav/attack system...what a beauty! Enjoyed every moment flying it! Thanks to everyone involved! :ok:

OAP

"Under the weather Under the radar"


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