PPRuNe Forums

PPRuNe Forums (https://www.pprune.org/)
-   Military Aviation (https://www.pprune.org/military-aviation-57/)
-   -   Recycling Prestwick/Kinloss? (https://www.pprune.org/military-aviation/543467-recycling-prestwick-kinloss.html)

Al R 13th Jul 2014 10:24

Recycling Prestwick/Kinloss?
 
BBC News - Scotland could be base for spaceport, says UK government

Or just a nice bribe.


Chief Secretary to the Treasury Danny Alexander hinted that Scotland could become a key player in the UK government's future plans for developing commercial space travel. "Scotland has a proud association with space exploration. We celebrated Neil Armstrong's Scottish ancestry when he became the first man on the Moon..".
That's the business case made then.

Onceapilot 13th Jul 2014 11:06

Pretty much a joke. Best invest the cash on supporting the successfull elements of UK space tech!

OAP

cobalt42 13th Jul 2014 13:35

UK Spaceport? In 'operation' by 2018?

Hahahahahahahahaha.................haha. :D Nice one Danny.

diginagain 13th Jul 2014 18:09

Don't laugh, but there are moves afoot to promote London Newquay/St Mawgan as a suitable place for a spaceport:

http://www.cornishspaceport.com/index.html

cobalt42 13th Jul 2014 18:49

'... in operation by 2018'.

By the time the Planning Application has been called in by Sec State, for the third time, EGLL will have its third, possibly fourth, runway...; the RN will have two operational carriers; RAF/FAA will be flying 10 squadrons of F35s and the MPA force will have won Fincastle... for the third time since bring the P8 into RAF service.

And I've just seen a pink pig heading for a visual at EGHI, though this 'vision' may have been caused by a pint or three of Doom Bar.

Laugh... the very idea!

Onceapilot 13th Jul 2014 19:06

Maybe they could integrate it at Brize? Would fit in well. :oh:

OAP

ion_berkley 14th Jul 2014 00:39

There is a very good reason why all existing space launch facilities tend towards the equator (And launch to the East).....someone needs to do their homework before opening their mouth.

gsa 14th Jul 2014 05:57

The If you vote for Independence look what you'll miss out on trick.

500N 14th Jul 2014 06:10

I thought if you were launching something into space you wanted to be nearer the equator ?

Happy to be corrected.

Sloppy Link 14th Jul 2014 07:47

If you're happy to be corrected, check spelling/spell checker, I think you meant "nearer".

Arty Fufkin 14th Jul 2014 07:54

Doesn't it all depend on the desired inclination of the orbit?

C'mon, it's not rocket science!!

500N 14th Jul 2014 07:54

Sloppy

Thanks :ok:

ion_berkley 14th Jul 2014 11:59


Doesn't it all depend on the desired inclination of the orbit?
Arty, In truth, your point is a good one, there are some categories of orbit that a location at a high latitude is potential advantageous for; So called polar orbits, and sun synchronous orbits being the obvious ones. It's all a matter of whether the additional rotational velocity you get from being at the Equator is a help or a hinderance. Plesetsk at 63'N being the obvious example of such a location. For Geo-stationary and Nasa style deep space work, the temporary injection orbit is always going to be in the Equatorial plane.

The other major factor is the issues of the various launch components returning to Earth downrange and what happens when stuff goes wrong...it tends to be very advantageous to launch over big Oceans...or at least unpopulated desolation. I'm sure the Scandinavians would be very excited by it all.

I wonder if all that Scottish rain pi$$ing down on a cryogenic stage would make for a giant flying popsicle.

Al R 15th Jul 2014 12:38

Well, it's on 5 Live now.

Wander00 15th Jul 2014 13:01

BBC News just did a bit about the "spaceport" Map put Llanbedr just about on the England/Wales border, then talked about airfields near "the coast"!

aislinn 15th Jul 2014 13:07

Like Wallops Island, VA;)
Seriously. These are to be sub orbital.
In the future more SI may be required to do orbital.

Always a Sapper 15th Jul 2014 16:13

Be better off putting the money into the exisiting transport infrastructure and making that actually work for a change.

WE Branch Fanatic 15th Jul 2014 16:43


Simplythebeast 15th Jul 2014 16:49

I think we wont be seeing any rockets being launched from that site but space vehicles piggybacking on aircraft which will use the conventional runway, and which will return to land on the runway. So all that equator, east facing stuff dont really matter much.

500N 15th Jul 2014 16:52

Which they can do from anywhere so why would they pick a cold, wet and windy location when you can do it from a nice, warm location ?


All times are GMT. The time now is 14:28.


Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.