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Sun Who 9th May 2014 16:42

Inappropriate trophy photos
 
BBC News - Pictures appear to show RAF man posing with dead Taliban fighter:(

Sun.

sandozer 9th May 2014 17:34

So unlike the libtard bbc to grasp on that one.

Genstabler 9th May 2014 18:17

I can't for the life of me understand what the fuss is about. There was a firefight. Our guy won. Thumbs up. Why should the MoD be hugely embarrassed? The next step will be huge embarrassment when we celebrate Battle of Britain Day because it might offend the Luftwaffe. Give me strength!

500N 9th May 2014 18:19

As you say, typical.

Why do they even bother printing it.

NutLoose 9th May 2014 18:29

Yup, thumbs up for adventure.... Don't people realise when you send people to kill people, those people will all have different ways of dealing with it.

500N 9th May 2014 18:32

The thumbs up could well be just a "phew, it was me versus him
and luckily I came out on top".

Old Ned 9th May 2014 18:43

Damn Lawyers
 
Unfortunately, the government is keen to see the photographers of such pics answer in court. It doesn't matter what else happened, as far as the lawyers are concerned here is a chance to show just how blood thirsty the evil soldiers/airmen/sailors really are.


They give Irish murderers "get out of jail free" cards, yet they want the military personnel involved in Blood Sunday, decades ago, up in court for murder.


Rum old world. The moral seems to be, if you take such pics (and after such a dreadful experience it must be a great temptation to do so) keep them close hold and tell nobody you would not trust with your life. We all know that Chatham House Rules after the old dining-in nights were always kept. But today, you can be on Facebook/YouTube in seconds.

melmothtw 9th May 2014 18:52


The next step will be huge embarrassment when we celebrate Battle of Britain Day because it might offend the Luftwaffe.
Would it be offensive if a photo appeared of an RAF pilot standing over the body of a dead German pilot he had shot down some time earlier with his thumbs up and smiling at the camera?

strake 9th May 2014 18:54

Given a government has decided that it will release its armed troops to use deadly force against an enemy in what ever possible way they can - the ultimate insult to another human being - how can they be so hypocritical to criticize the same troops when they show a fairly subdued level of relief at having survived the conflict they have been ordered to undertake?

melmothtw 9th May 2014 18:57


The moral seems to be, if you take such pics (and after such a dreadful experience it must be a great temptation to do so) keep them close hold and tell nobody you would not trust with your life. We all know that Chatham House Rules after the old dining-in nights were always kept. But today, you can be on Facebook/YouTube in seconds.
To me the moral seems to be don't take such pics, but then I'm old fashioned like that.

melmothtw 9th May 2014 18:59


Given a government has decided that it will release its armed troops to use deadly force against an enemy in what ever possible way they can - the ultimate insult to another human being - how can they be so hypocritical to criticize the same troops when they show a fairly subdued level of relief at having survived the conflict they have been ordered to undertake?
Because it's a slippery slope strake. It's trophy photos such as this one day, and filming post battle executions on helmet-cams the next day.

500N 9th May 2014 19:00

I tend to agree, either don't take them, if you do you can take it without the thumbs up and keep them to yourself.

melmothtw 9th May 2014 19:06

If folks still aren't sure about the right and wrongs of this, then imagine its the Taliban standing over the dead bodies of British soldiers, smiling and with their thumbs up. I wonder how many would be excusing it as a 'subdued level of relief'.

Boudreaux Bob 9th May 2014 19:07

In the scheme of things....this is just one "Ho Hum!" Kodak Moment.

Bluntly, I hope there are shed loads of "Trophy Photos" like this....our guys smiling and the Taliban serving as a back drop. Perhaps after several Thousand of these splashed all over the local newspapers they might tweak to the danger of going up against a first rate Military.

Understanding the lack of Literacy in that part of the World....we cannot think a simple paragraph or two would get the message across....but photos are easily understood even by the Village Idiot.

melmothtw 9th May 2014 19:13


In the scheme of things....this is just one "Ho Hum!" Kodak Moment.
And if it was a dead US soldier lying there Boudreaux Bob? Would that be just another ho-hum Kodak moment?

melmothtw 9th May 2014 19:28


Understanding the lack of Literacy in that part of the World....we cannot think a simple paragraph or two would get the message across....but photos are easily understood even by the Village Idiot.
Absolutely, which is exactly why when you're trying to win hearts and minds photos such as this can set a counterinsurgency campaign back years. But I guess we're beyond that now and just treading water until the end of the year, so no harm done eh.

racedo 9th May 2014 20:09

What kind of D**khead allowed the photo to be taken and then published.
Do they know that camera come with a delete key.

smujsmith 9th May 2014 20:22

I am no sympathiser with the Taliban, or any enemy of our Armed Forces. I do though question the common sense of so called "intelligent" modern soldiers in allowing themselves to be compromised in this way by a compulsion for social media gratification. In my day, what happened "down route" stayed " down route", and so it should remain. I'm sure that previous posters also have it correct in that none of us would trivialise a photograph showing a Taliban fighter posing over a dead Regiment airman. Perhaps its time that some people started to realise the ramifications of modern social media.

Smudge

Torque Tonight 9th May 2014 20:26

The people who are most upset by these photographs are those who have never put themselves in harm's way and who have never experienced the feeling of having an enemy actively trying to kill them, people who never have and never will stand up to fight, physically, for what is right. People who live blissfully in an insulated little bubble of safety and security which since the dawn of time has been provided with the blood of servicemen. Under these circumstances I am really struggling to give a toss about the faux outrage Islington liberals spluttering into their lattes over photos of morbid reality.

Certainly it would be more convenient for many if such photos didn't exist. However maybe a glimpse of the reality of armed conflict is a helpful reminder to government and population alike. The modern trend for servicemen putting their lives on the line for this country is die if you lose, get prosecuted if you win.:ugh:

melmothtw 9th May 2014 20:29


The people who are most upset by these photographs are those who have never put themselves in harm's way and who have never experienced the feeling of having an enemy actively trying to kill them, people who never have and never will stand up to fight, physically, for what is right. People who live blissfully in an insulated little bubble of safety and security which since the dawn of time has been provided with the blood of servicemen. Under these circumstances I am really struggling to give a toss about the faux outrage Islington liberals spluttering into their lattes over photos of morbid reality.
I wouldn't bet your mortgage on that Torque.


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