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Stratofreighter 23rd Apr 2014 15:01

VIDEO: the Chinese Fleet Air Arm, carrier jet operations...
 
"To mark the PLAN's 65th anniversary, AVIC commissioned this music video of the Shenyang J-15 carrier-borne fighter."

...with a bit of "artistic licence" after 2.00 minutes... :rolleyes:

mr fish 23rd Apr 2014 19:09

wrong music, should be STEVE STEVENS.
the widdle widdle hotshot who fretwanked all over TOPGUN.


Be interested to see who butchers the soundtrack for the upcoming TOPGUN 2.




by the way, is that the boat purchased with the intention of making a floating casino??

Deepest Norfolk 23rd Apr 2014 20:32

Quite "arty farty", but a pretty ship and a beautiful looking aeroplane. Play the sound track but lose the visuals of the singer and replace with shots of cats and traps. Some nice slomo even if not enough of the 'plane and too much of the "good, strong Chinese people".

It capabilities match looks, we could be in trouble if push came to shove, as they say.

DN

orionsbelt 23rd Apr 2014 21:48

Well well lets see what they can do when they carry out night / low vis / Crap wx / imc conditions Operations. IF they can!!!!!!!

US Navy
Case III
When it is anticipated that flights will encounter instrument conditions during a departure/recovery because the ceiling or visibility around the carrier are lower than 1,000 feet and 5 nmi respectively; or for night time departures/recoveries.

A minimum launch interval of 30 seconds is used between aircraft, which climb straight ahead. At 7 nmi, they turn to fly the 10-nmi arc until intercepting their assigned departure radial.
From winkipedia

Thay might make plush videos but can they fight at night in crap wx
and each AC and pilot making multiple missions...........No chance.

500N 23rd Apr 2014 21:50

Orion

"...........No chance."

Yet ! ;) :O

Agree.

It might take them quite a few years but they will get there, eventually !

Not sure they will ever get as good as the US which has been and done it in combat.

Buster Hyman 24th Apr 2014 07:08


It might take them quite a few years but they will get there, eventually !
Regardless of the cost... :(

BOAC 24th Apr 2014 07:17

I fear some posters here are dangerously under-estimating the Chinese - let's hope these posters have no role in defence planning!"

A and C 24th Apr 2014 07:32

BOAC
 
I agree totally they have the will to do so and more important the money.

stilton 24th Apr 2014 08:01

Seems like a pretty fighter that can carry next to no payload off a 'ski jump'



Needs a catapult.

Trim Stab 24th Apr 2014 08:05

the Chinese Fleet Air Arm?
 
Strictly it is the People's Liberation Army Naval Air Force, which shows they have their priorities in the right order:ok:

MPN11 24th Apr 2014 08:38

The pilot seems to be experiencing a lot of vibration at 2:15 ... any FJ comment on that?

orionsbelt 24th Apr 2014 18:47

List of aircraft carriers in service - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Review this data.
If its correct the odd Chinese carrier is not an issue.
The USN have 19!!! in service and 4 more on the way. All manned by people who have done the job before with very capable aeroplanes and integerated Air wings. Additionally look at the ballance of Carries from the other countries in the region.
Pretty aeroplane and the bloke can sing ......... non event.

Hangarshuffle 24th Apr 2014 22:06

Great Leap Forward.
 
So it seems. Good for TV video promo I suppose - is this stuff really watched on Chinese TV then?
The points being made by the director seemed to me to be;
1. A young vibrant nation of eager young fit dedicated people.
2. Brand new gleaming materiel which we are proving to work/fly/sail.
3. This is something to be proud of.
I mean it is a fantastic leap in progress, I just hope they don't ever get the vision, money, confidence and wartime experience that made the USN what it is today.
Hardly feels fair to comment on the RNs shenanigans of the last ten years with its carrier and FW carry on.
Wonder what our video would be like to celebrate the float out of HMS QE shortly? What would the focus be on? If we weren't careful...it would look like...
1. A very old Queen/monarchy launching it who looks very old. Possible complacency?
2. Being built in a country shortly to be independent from the rest of the place its supposed to be defending?
3. Already known its not going to be operational any time soon.
4. With empty places where the crews who are supposed to be operating/flying it etc.


Getting the picture. Best our UK video isn't made just yet.

500N 24th Apr 2014 22:13

"I just hope they don't ever get the vision, money, confidence and wartime experience that made the USN what it is today."

They have the vision, money and confidence already, with more confidence to be gained as they progress.

It's a bit like Japan pre WWII, except the Brit's aren't helping them !

Not being negative but I agree with one of the earlier posters,
don't under estimate China.


I thought I read on here in a previous discussion about a ballistic missile
China has that it's sole purpose is to hit Aircraft carriers from afar.

Marcantilan 25th Apr 2014 16:42

With this carrier, China now have the capability to project naval power, far away from its shores.

Surely, they could not fight the new Battle of Midway against the US but, anyway, is unlikely a carrier battle anyway in this days.

mickjoebill 26th Apr 2014 06:48

The Chameleon of the skies, yellow when it's on the deck and blue when it's airborne…



Mickjoebill

Hempy 26th Apr 2014 08:47


Originally Posted by Marcantilan (Post 8450393)
With this carrier, China now have the capability to project naval power, far away from its shores.

Surely, they could not fight the new Battle of Midway against the US but, anyway, is unlikely a carrier battle anyway in this days.

This is the only place the US could take on the Chinese in battle and expect some form of dominance. Good luck trying a land/air battle against the PLA, they'd win on attrition alone..

Rhino power 26th Apr 2014 11:34


Originally Posted by Mercantilan
With this carrier, China now have the capability to project naval power, far away from its shores...

Really? Has anyone ever seen a video of a J-15, SU-33, or even a MiG-29K for that matter, actually take-off from a carrier with a meaningful weapon load? Every launch video I've seen is with absolutely minimal, if any at all, underwing stores...

-RP

Agaricus bisporus 26th Apr 2014 13:12

Well, the Japanese air capability pre WW2 was written off in much the same way. Bad eyesight and no co-ordination that time, wasn't it?

Cave.

West Coast 26th Apr 2014 15:29

Hempy

Could you provide a peak at the analysis that allowed you to arrive at your conclusion wrt a notional air conflict between the US and China?


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