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I was surprised watching that Sky interview vid at @40 seconds he said "In any survival situation the big priorities are Water, Food, Protection, Shelter and Fire ; Mmm, on my seperate Arctic, Desert and Jungle Survival courses we were told; Protection, Location, Water, Food.
Perhaps I need to readjust all that teaching and attend one of Bretts Wildcrafts bushcraft and survival school courses :rolleyes: I will especially look forward to the very dynamic personality of chief instructor Les during the knife safety and sharpening class :ooh: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._Brent_111.jpg |
Get with it Siloe
These days it is: Protection Concealment Water Food ..because the bad guys nowadays cannot read the Geneve Convention and are a bit handy with their machetes and video cameras. That said I agree with your sentiment :ok: ....and I also believe that any aircrew member who has undertaken any form of Survival training would default to the same order. I am interested in finding the outcome to this thread as there are dangers with ill informed persons being permitted to teach anybody never mind Cadets who will lock onto every word. |
Anyone else having a flash back to the Army Major Doctor who held on 22 at Valley but actually turned out to be a TA (non-doctor) private?
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When you look at his linkedin, it shows his education history which includes his school, but seems to miss the RAF out totally which is curious
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What is the 'aircrew survival cadre'? I did the CSRO course, and taught survival at fod free Finn. But I haven't a scooby what said cadre is. Post '87 p'raps?
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WALT KLAXON
From his LinkedIn profile- Interests: Airsoft skirmishing |
Oh dear, not looking good for him.
From my winter survival training (albeit 1987): You will only survive:
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Seeing as we're into The Office here's a quote that these two jokers could definately use "I could catch a monkey. If I was starving I could. I'd make poison darts out of the poison of the deadly frogs. One milligram of that poison can kill a monkey. Or a man. Prick yourself and you'd be dead within a day. Or longer. Different frogs, different times"!
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Brett Day Ian, I held the rank of Sgt Aircrew and my trade was Air Loadmaster but I did undertake the battlefield medic cadte and the SAR medic cadre, given that most people would not know what an ALM was I used the term sar medic. Does that clarify to your satisfaction? 2 · 31 July 2013 at 02:26 Brett Day Kim, if you are anywhere near Chelmsford Essex I'll be happy to dispell the idea I'm a yank. At the time I served in the RAF there was ASR: Air Sea Rescue, which was coastal to offshore, we shated this duty with the RN, SAR: Search and Rescue, coastal to inland and in wartime pilot retreival, and lastly volunteer mountain rescue. You'te right about my spelling between a dinky smartphone keyboard and mild dyslexia its bound to happen. PS Brett / Bret are both uk spellings deriving from an old english name Brit (Man of Britain). 1 · 1 August 2013 at 00:02 Brett Day Hiya I was with 202Sqn many moons ago! 1 · 1 August 2013 at 00:03 |
The Facebook link was priceless. That Ffyona Campbell gave him a proper mauling.:E
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Didn't I read somewhere that he served 4 years in the RAF ?
If so, 4 years to make Sgt ??? |
Company Description: Wildcrafts was founded in 2000 by Les Davidson because of his love for Bushcraft and to teach specialist bushcraft and survival skills. Having spent 8 years in the British Army, Les brings his knowledge of military survival along with his extensive knowledge of bushcraft to those who wish to learn. It is his aim that every student who progresses from a Wildcrafts course will leave with an understanding of nature and caring attitude to the environment around them; will also recognize that skills must be passed down so that generations to come will benefit from the knowledge our forefathers possessed. |
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I'm always entertained by Mr Grylls. He's never given the real reason for his leaving 21 What was your reason for leaving 22, or even 21? |
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Didn't I read somewhere that he served 4 years in the RAF ?
If so, 4 years to make Sgt ??? Acting Sgt is awarded upon completion of Non Commissioned Aircrew training. |
Les’s interest in survival skills began whilst completing his bronze and silver D of E awards; he later served in the British Army for 8 years as a combat radioman. It was during this time he was taught fieldcraft, survival and basic escape and evasion techniques. |
but based on over 700 operational sar sorties and my experience as a survival instructor How long was SAR rear crew training in the 1980s? How long did it take to train as a survival instructor? All in four years, eh? |
I am quite sure that there were no first tourist SAR in the eighties. This opportunity first occurred post DHFS which is 1997+.
He therefore would have done a tour on SH or on very rare occasions, the AT fleet. Never heard of him := |
More info to track down and home into Mr Day...
Brett Day SP Message: For those who thought that it was over the top and condescending, you don't have to follow it, but unless you have the actual competence to counter it with better advice then please don't rubbish it. I'm not a fan of nannying people but a little knowledge and a little of the right preparedness pays dividends. The bit I posted came about as several of our students wanted some good practical advice, I tried my best to make something reasonably concise based on my knowledge and experience: over 700 operational sorties as a member of RAF Search and Rescue, my Police Class 1 driver training, I was formerly an aircrew survival instructor and am now a qualified Bushcraft and Survival Instructor and the experience gained from various incidents that I've come across over the years and of course things picked from student's experiences. For example the last lot of heavy snow I was flagged down by a gent in shirt sleeves, borderline hypothermic with his wife and two young kids in the car, they had got stuck in snow none had any cold weather clothing let alone kit in the car, they run down the battery and completely unprepared. Every year, every time we have severe weather we have those who get caught out, some due to lack of knowledge (as I said in my bit above - the main causes of AA's call outs - Battery failure, tyre failure and running out of fuel), to anyone with a bit of knowledge or vaguely prepared THIS SHOULD NOT HAPPEN, yet it does with frightening regularity. There are those who are aware of conditions but take the "Don't be a sissy" approach, I would argue that someone who knows what conditions are like yet fails to prepare is an even bigger fool than someone with no knowledge. Nature can be harsh - I've recovered the bodies to prove it! Based on information from the NHS, Mountain Rescue and UK SAR teams most fatal cases of outdoors hypothermia in the UK occur between temperatures of +10 degrees down to -6 degrees C to people who are within a 20 minute walk to a place of safety. Your decision. Pikeman, tbh most counties with far worse weather than ours deal better with it, they have longer to adapt most of the scandanavian countries it is a legal requirement to have winter tyres, and some areas tyre chains, and there is a cultural respect for the weather conditions that we in the UK just don't seem to have, we seem to bounce between ignorance and a macho contempt for it and just as most people get used to conditions they finish. Alex, if you like please use and adapt as you see fit and thank you. |
Regardless of the thread title..I wanna now hear Airborne artist's stories of derring-do. Anyone who takes the piss out of someone in the reserve SAS must have a few dits under his belt..surely??
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