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Pontius Navigator 10th Feb 2014 17:12


Originally Posted by gr4techie (Post 8310999)
Apparently they were sensitive to the cold. So scientists had to think of how to heat up the mines for such a long period of time. Electrical batteries wouldn't last, so he best source of heat they came up with is a thousand chickens with enough food and water!

You are of course confusing that small back pack nuke with Blue Peacock. By no stretch of the imagination was BP man-portable. It was a true ADM that would need to have been emplaced in a detonation chamber. I believe these were constructed at a number of locations.

Blue Peacock used a shock-mounted Blue Danube capsule in a hermetically sealed container. Google Image Result for http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39990000/jpg/_39990167_chicken203.jpg

While the container was fully sealed it was estimated that the biological heat source would remain viable for the required length of time.

PS While looking for Blue Peacock I found this better image:

Google Image Result for http://2.bp.********.com/-pmn6jwWvLZo/UCA6296TwxI/AAAAAAAAAzc/6oNHKZlAGec/s1600/100_5020.JPG

Pontius Navigator 10th Feb 2014 17:20

As scary as a man-pack nuke, the RN plan to insert Red Beard based nukes into the Naval base at Kronstadt would have enthused the crews involved:

Barrow Submariners Association

SASless 10th Feb 2014 17:54

The USN used Attack Subs to service Phone Cable Traps for years.....so leaving some Nukes behind would not have been difficult at all.

If you can leave a Phone Trap....what is to say we did not leave some sort of Nuke....or at least had the ability to do so if we had wanted?

If they ever did....I sure hope they did not affix a label saying "US Navy Property....if found please return!".

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Pontius Navigator 10th Feb 2014 18:21

SASLess, having been to Kronstadt it would have been a whole lot more of hurt than tapping an undersea cable.

The water is very shallow, entrance, the 'deep' water channel is between the mainland and the fortress about 2-3 miles wide. It was, incidentally, the penetration route for one of our targets.

WUH, I did the WEC at Cranditz in 1974 and the Nike in the SSM role was one option and indeed the weapons of choice for our exercise target. It would have had the benefit of collateral damage on the adjacent town.

Whenurhappy 10th Feb 2014 18:25

PN:

Rotherham, I hope.

Pontius Navigator 10th Feb 2014 18:31

Neuruppin ..

MPN11 10th Feb 2014 18:38


Hang on, I'll check my loft - might still have one up there...
No, it's only a box of Compo rations, Menu D. Best before WW3
Almost as deadly...
Probably as useful as my plastic gift-wrapped NBC Suit Mk 2, dating from the 80s. But whatever, 'every little helps'.

NutLoose 10th Feb 2014 18:56

Don't forget this little puppy


topgas 11th Feb 2014 20:07

There's a thread on Arrse on strange weapons Those wierd and wonderful weapons that didnt make it - Page 10 which covered the Davey Crocket launcher system - range about 2km 9but not very accurate), 10-20 ton yield, probably fatal radiation dose to 600m, selectable medium or low burst height
http://www.arrse.co.uk/attachment.ph...1&d=1165014606

and the nuclear backpack SADM, variable yield 10 tons to 1 kiloton
http://laststandonzombieisland.files...mk-54-sadm.jpg

Heathrow Harry 12th Feb 2014 15:01

you could easily leave one of those on the Tube by mistake................

Wander00 12th Feb 2014 15:42

HH - perhaps best not to go there - oh, here comes the black Omega agai....................................n

racedo 12th Feb 2014 16:01

What was the old tune

"Bring me sunshine lalala.."

Heathrow Harry 13th Feb 2014 14:17

A few years back I was in Paris during some terrorist scare and the French Army had deployed with At4S anti-tank (like a bazooka) in the tunnels and on the platforms

Pretty scarey :uhoh::uhoh::uhoh:

Pontius Navigator 13th Feb 2014 15:04

HH, they don't mess around. We were in Disney last year. It was patrolled by armed marines.

AR1 13th Feb 2014 15:11

I imagine the Nike-Hercules S-S mode was the inevitable consequence of it missing its original target. It wasn't called the 'Forget and Fire' system for nothing!

1771 DELETE 13th Feb 2014 16:49

I think you may find that it was not only US forces packing a nuclear rucksack, some people much closer to home had the same idea.

I also don't think that Nike was the only missile with a dual capability but my memory is fading now.

Pontius Navigator 13th Feb 2014 17:07

AR1, nice one. It was also pretty effective in the anti-air role in that mode.

Toasting an airfield is a pretty easy way of getting a kill; just think, each battery would become an Ace with one launch :}

NutLoose 13th Feb 2014 17:31

You can tell that is a British designed nuclear rucksack through the judisious use of a no expense spared lump of old rope.

awblain 13th Feb 2014 21:31

The shiny rope is just to distract the curious.

racedo 13th Feb 2014 21:50


The shiny rope is just to distract the curious.
Like Kleptomaniacs.................................


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