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Rossian 13th Dec 2013 14:51

Oh dear Melchie....
 
.....TTN has been out for a while, as have I. These may well be common abbvs. these days but if someone makes an effort to keep in touch with the organisation they spent a large part of their lives working in, don't crap on them with the smart arse answers.

The response to the OP was also pretty ****ty. I think he's probably thinking twice about following through on his original idea.

Oh, and spare me the "it's only a bit of banter" IYCTAJYSHJ sort of reply.

The Ancient Mariner

Toadstool 13th Dec 2013 15:24

AM et al

MID - Mention in Despatches
BG - Battle Group
HLS - Helicopter Landing Site
RW - Rotary Wing
BSN - Bastion
JAG - (Joint Air Group B%?)

The OP who is currently serving would presumably know these TLAs although I appreciate you old timers :-) may not have known. I also thought that advice ref MAOT rather than an Ops Room was excellent advice and may have been an angle with which the OP may have been unaware.

MPN11 13th Dec 2013 16:02

This old scrote knew all of those TLAs. Do I get a prize? :cool:

Melchett01 13th Dec 2013 17:59

Flt Ops Officer
 
Rossian,

I'll give you BSN & JAG if you left pre-HERRICK kick off, but the rest are standard mil abbreviations anybody should know if they've been in for more than a dog's watch. You do know about these new fangled helicopter things don't you ?

And if the OP is in theatre he will know exactly what BSN and JAG are. I can only assume you missed the irony in my reply to TTN.

orca 13th Dec 2013 18:09

What's an OP?

gijoe 13th Dec 2013 18:30

Hole dug in the ground, sticks used to cover the hole, periscope stuck over the top and the baddies watched.

...but that's not important right now.

It might also be source of this thread.

G:ok:

orca 13th Dec 2013 18:33

That would be a SOTT. ;)

CptDesire 13th Dec 2013 18:43

Genuinely thanks for the help fellas I appreciate the majority of the replies, even if it is turning into a pissing contest between trade groups. The MAOTs sound very interesting, how easy is it to go down this route?

To whoever wrote I probably will not pass the aptitude tests if I'm looking to be spoon fed; I plan to visit JAG when I get the opportunity however I'm on a quite a high turn around at the moment and out on the ground the majority of the time. As I don't have the time to get down there at present and with the careers website being rather vague I posted on here looking for answers and advice- I don't see a problem with that. Some people have been a lot of help despite a lot of negative comments on here. One of the big bonus' of the job is it seems to have a lot of variety however a lot of people currently serving are saying the trade is on borrowed time and likely to be amalgamated with ABM and ATC, is there any truth to this?

gijoe 13th Dec 2013 20:44

Standby SDSR15 - if you don't know what that is then find out sharp!

Everything, repeat everything, is on the table for amalgamation, cutting, etc

G:ok:

Toadstool 13th Dec 2013 20:46

Good luck with whatever you do though. Enthusiasm and a will to succeed, which you appear to have, will help you go a long way.

langleybaston 13th Dec 2013 21:26

say again all after "good morning" please.

Tankertrashnav 13th Dec 2013 21:59


PS you missed a couple .. FJ, MID http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/sr...lies/wink2.gif
Well I dispensed a lot of fuel to FJ's over the years so I knew that one, and as one of PPRuNe's resident medal buffs I knew MID.

But thanks to Toadstool for the explanation of the others :ok:

plans123 14th Dec 2013 11:43

Rule of thumb in an Ops Room:

1 SAC = 1 Flt Ops Off
1 Cpl = 2 Flt Ops Off
1 Sgt FOM = 4 Flt Ops Off

:ok:

Wallah 14th Dec 2013 12:57

You forgot to mention the bit about knowing when you have good Flt Ops O as we can count to more than 10 without taking our shoes and socks off and know how to answer a phone (well at least get it the right way up 9 times out of 10)! :eek:

Canadian Break 14th Dec 2013 19:14

Branch old thing, not trade.

Pontius Navigator 14th Dec 2013 19:34

I had the job on mentoring an abo FOO. She was one of 3 FOO, then other two were retreaded scribblies. Mine, OTOH, was only part Ops and part computer systems manager. Her following tour was as an Ops O with SOpsO in mind.

Fast forward about 6-7 years and she was an SO2 in 1 Gp and after that served as Sqn Ldr Ops.

I have momentarily lost sight of her but I am sure I could find out what she is up to now.

Pontius Navigator 14th Dec 2013 19:36


Originally Posted by Wallah (Post 8206150)
You forgot to mention the bit about knowing when you have good Flt Ops O as we can count to more than 10 without taking our shoes and socks off and know how to answer a phone (well at least get it the right way up 9 times out of 10)! :eek:

Ah, that explains the basic nav stude we had in the late 80s (pre-flt ops) she used to take her shoes off. Drove her course commander mad (maybe he had a feet fetish) (Sorry Alec :))

Hoots 14th Dec 2013 21:16

MAOT is a great job, which certainly gives you a varied and interesting workload. Currently there are 7 Flt Ops Os and 6 NCA. For the Os they are typically second tourists minimum. Most of the NCA are Masters, but not all. They also come from different backgrounds, not just rotary. All in all a most enjoyable and interesting tour, which gives you a massive respect for the infantry and the conditions they work in.

CptDesire 15th Dec 2013 06:54

MAOT sounds an interesting job, is it open only to Flt Ops? What tasking do they do and what route would a Flt Ops Officer have to go down to this job?

Thanks.

Wallah 15th Dec 2013 13:37

A first tour in SH can't hurt; then put it in your OJAR and hope that the Desk Officer is on your side and there is a slot. Like all posts there's an element of luck but you can do a lot to help yourself. However, like all things there are no guarantees, if your timing is out or the gods are just not on your side you may not crack it.


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