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Blue Bottle 20th Nov 2013 05:47

US Navy debuts the P-8A Poseidon at the Dubai Air Show
 
US Navy debuts the P-8A Poseidon at the Dubai Air Show, with an RAF FS doing all the talking on the clip

BBC News - US Navy debuts the P-8A Poseidon at the Dubai Air Show

If we get it, where will go and how many is the smart money on....

TOWTEAMBASE 20th Nov 2013 07:25

US Navy debuts the P-8A Poseidon at the Dubai Air Show
 
Probably not.......they must have something due to be scrapped that we can buy and operate for another 30 years!!!!

Blue Bottle 20th Nov 2013 10:12

yep, and leave it in their colours rather than repaint it in our's

Heathrow Harry 20th Nov 2013 10:41

BAe will only charge 500 million for painting them in RAF colours..........

Blue Bottle 20th Nov 2013 10:42

It's a buyer's market out there, lots of aircraft paintshops around the world. Where were the T*'s repainted again ?

TOWTEAMBASE 20th Nov 2013 10:46

US Navy debuts the P-8A Poseidon at the Dubai Air Show
 
It seems they painted part of our RC135, the bottom half looks "nimrod" colour rather than the grey on the US version

Jayand 20th Nov 2013 11:34

Said FS is obviously enjoying the US rations available lol

NorthernKestrel 20th Nov 2013 14:38

Another interview with RAF 'Seedcorn' aircrew on the P-8A here - complete with ominous warning about what happens when all the experienced guys get moved on....

Dubai Air Show 2013 - Day 3 | Aerospace | The Royal Aeronautical Society

Ken Scott 20th Nov 2013 15:25

I'm sure we could buy the P8A - but it will need new engines (Rolls Royce), new avionics (Ferranti?) - I'm sure BAE will manage the contract for the MOD, they can have it on frontline service in less than 10 years from the USA getting it, at only 3 times the price and half the effectiveness - think of all the jobs in marginal constituencies it could support. Hang on, is there a suitable factory in Scotland that could get the contract? That might persuade a few more of the Jocks to vote for the Union, plus it could be based at the place in Scotland which did all the maritime stuff? What, it closed? Well, what about that other place, in Cornwall? Oh, we shut that too?

Sandy Parts 20th Nov 2013 17:31

Good old WS - "when you were on Radar, you were Radar" - certainly not Radios anyway - unless it was on a transit! - :) I hope all the sweetcorners manage to get what they want in 1.5 years time - If not, at least it sounds like they are representing the last of the UK LRMPA community with distinction (any enjoying it to boot).

MAD Boom 20th Nov 2013 18:13

If a mugshot in RAF News is worth a crate, how much beer does Slimesy owe for a BBC interview!

Sideshow Bob 20th Nov 2013 19:59


Good old WS
What happened to his hair could of sworn it was brown lol.


It seems they painted part of our RC135, the bottom half looks "nimrod" colour rather than the grey on the US version
No, it was definitely grey when I left the office earlier; unless someone's done a quick spray job in the last 3 hours! :ok:

Party Animal 21st Nov 2013 08:01


If we get it, where will go and how many is the smart money on....
Purely my guess - 7ac based at WAD. :8


The anti-submarine and anti-ship aircraft is in its last stages of testing and is making its first trip outside the US.
More crap, lazy, cheap and wrong journalism. :rolleyes:

Arclite01 21st Nov 2013 08:40

Is the Poseidon the aircraft of choice now then for UK MRP ??

Seems like a reasonable package for the money we have to spend. What is more important - numbers of MRP or capability ??

Arc

Seafurysmith 21st Nov 2013 08:49

Why can't the BBC get its facts right? - 'making its first trip outside the US' this will be the same P8 then that I have seen at Lossiemouth twice in the past year or so then? Certainly not its first trip............... hope the RAF do end up with a few though.

Biggus 21st Nov 2013 09:02

Arc,

How do you know how much "money we have to spend"?

Please reveal the figure, it would be of interest to some of us viewing here.

Party Animal 21st Nov 2013 09:49


What is more important - numbers of MRP or capability ??


Arc - it's always about capability. Once you have defined what you need, the numbers will fall out to achieve it. i.e, if you need 24 hour coverage of something and the options available include an aircraft type that can fly for 24 hours versus one that can only fly for 3 hours, then clearly you would need less of the former.

Once that is established, you can then look at costs.

Arclite01 21st Nov 2013 10:07

Hi Biggus

The line entry in the DE for Nimrod MR4 in 2008 was around 1.6B.That was the only figure I could find.

I like the idea of 20 Poseidon out on the Pan but frankly that's not going to happen so would 7 be enough ??

I actually think we won't get any since the 'capability holiday' will become a 'capability removal' and that will be that.

For a Maritime nation it's a disgrace and a massive risk/loss. No other way to package it.

Arc

TOWTEAMBASE 21st Nov 2013 19:48

US Navy debuts the P-8A Poseidon at the Dubai Air Show
 
Sideshow

There is a pic of ZZ664 on airliners.net looking deceptively sandy underbelly, that's what made me say it

betty swallox 21st Nov 2013 20:12

...which has absolutely nothing to do with P-8A...


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