Afghanistan imploding again
 

President Hamid Karzai has started the blame game. BBC reports him bleating. Wonder if he has bought property in Kensington?

OAP

To be blunt, the corrupt cnut can Eff Off.....

What a cretinous turd. How many NATO service personnel have given their lives to try and drag his ring piece of a country from the dark ages to some form of civilisation, whilst also placing him in a rather comfortable position at the top of the pile?

I'd rather he just said "thank you".

His attitude, and constant whingeing should be remembered, about two months after the western forces withdraw, and he turns up claiming "asylum". Obviously anyone with his attitude is not worthy. Anyway, he would want to jump the waiting list for a council house.

Smudge :ok:

The billions the USA and UK sent to Afghanistan was largely creamed off by the ruling elite and invested in Dubai property. They are nicely set up for when the state collapses.
All our lives lost, all the injuries, all the money, all the equipment will all be for nothing. Just wasted. Thank you Bliar and Bush.

Wouldn't the last 10 years have been different if

The US had got out of Afghanistan pretty quickly,
I think 2 or 3 years after they went in ?

Which would have allowed even more focus on Iraq
and if Bremer hadn't made such a balls up and no
insurgency had occurred.

So many lives wouldn't have been lost.

Are you guys serious?

You expect him to thank NATO?

It's the only tactic he has to counter the view that he is a puppet.

Wouldn't it also have been different if the US and its bezzy mates allies had just gone for the Terr training and holding camps without taking on their resident Nation and wrecking its core infrastructure. As Gen (Rtd) Colin Powell said at the time; you break it, you own it.

As regards that great diversion Iraq, I recall that the head sheds of a number of Governments told a few fibs about the excuse.

Karzai's latest statement was meant to reassure the female population that they have nothing to fear from the return of the Taliban.


-unless you have a job, or go to school.....:suspect:

Or are a little girl who they have already shot once
and have just stated they will do so again.

Let them eat yellow cake.

If so, one hopes that he will never be allowed to live in it, or be allowed the priviledge of entering the Country that has given so much to try to prevent the return of his homeland to the middle ages.

Having just seen his interview on the Beeb 10 0'clock I'm almost as enraged that our Govt has allowed itself to be taken in by this crook.

The drug addict is welcome to his turd of a country.

Lets just get the lads and the kit home safely, and leave the sh£thole behind.

I hope NATO have learned their lesson.that being you can't tame Afghanistan. All they will know is sorrow, pity and civil war.

Our politicians will never learn. Someone in western power will do it all over again in the not too distant future and take another couple of thousand troops with them! Iran/N Korea/Syria/N Africa/Somalia/Ethiopia/Georgia.
It is the way of the world.
Simple law abiding folk saw Iraq and Afghanistan turn into a debacle before they even started - and still we stood back and allowed it to happen.
Man is a war monger - simples!

As for Karzai - he is now preparing the way to safeguard his future both from a financial and a survival perspective. The Taliban will rule Afghan within months, not years............

When will we ever learn?:ugh:

Agree re it will be done again.

This time, sort out the ROE before they go on and if they can't do it
without one hand tied, then don't do it. And everyone on the same ROE,
it must be crazy trying to run a war.

His property is in Dubai - his brother was detained at customs there with 30 million dollars in cash when entering the country. Within days of the withdrawal of foreign armed forces the country will revert to the same medieval shambles of ignorance and cruelty it always was - Karzai will not be there to see it,he will be lying beside the pool in his villa in Dubai.

who were we trying to kid in thinking that we could bring peace and democracy to one of the World's most lawless tribal areas - and has been thus for eons?

So many young lives wasted and families affected..

:yuk: pox on the politicians and their "advisors".

It is the Muslim/Arab way.

I recollect my time in Afghanistan (Op VERTAS 2001-2002) wondering where it was all going. Sure, a Bin Laden hunt was necessary but all the rest?

Karzai on BBC
 

This made me angry.:mad:

Watch to conclusion if you want your dander properly raised.

BBC News - Hamid Karzai speaks exclusively to the BBC's Yalda Hakim

Sun.

Indeed. It was never really evident back then what the end-game would be. As with Iraq, it was a case of install a puppet government, rebuild some stuff we broke, train some of their guys to be policemen and soldiers, then beat a hasty retreat for the exit, declaring "job done".

We could have saved ourselves a whole heap of heartache and treasure if we stuck to the original model of using SF teams on the ground and B52s in racetracks overhead.