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-   -   Nasa's WB-57 takes to the air again after 41 years grounded. (https://www.pprune.org/military-aviation/521113-nasas-wb-57-takes-air-again-after-41-years-grounded.html)

msbbarratt 24th Nov 2015 05:37

They've just sent all three examples up for a fly-around Houston:

Three high-flying birds soar together for the first time since the 1970s | Ars Technica UK

Canberra - the aircraft that has been too useful to die for a veeery long time now!

Just as a matter of interest, just how expensive would it be thesedays to build something like that (or indeed the original) new? I don't mean load it up with massively expensive electronics, or design a whole new engine for ultimate performance. I simply mean build an airframe that looks the same, add the modern equivalent engines and a modicum of up-to-date avionics. Am I being cynical or would most of the money be lost to paperwork, political arguments, contract arrangements and set up time rather than actual metal cutting and joining?

ORAC 24th Nov 2015 05:56

If you mean performance wise, Rutan did, it's called the Proteus. Even if it looks a might uglier......

http://www.aviastar.org/pictures/usa..._proteus_2.jpg

http://www.air-and-space.com/2005121...anding%20m.jpg

drewski429 11th Jan 2016 21:05

N 927 is FMC
 
My internal company newsletter (DynCorp Int'l) announced that the rebuild contract for delivery of one WB-57 is complete. All three made a formation presentation over Houston after the customer took custody of the aircraft from our hangar. Godspeed, NASA!

For a 70 year old aircraft, it didn't take a whole lot of modification to add power, reassemble and retrofit new tech. It was literally pulled straight from "celebrity row" in Tuscon after having sat there for 40 years. Some of you have stood in front of the old 927 as a museum piece!!

https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8523/8...36e14b5fb8.jpg



When DynCorp Int'l sent me to Afghanistan from 2010-2011, I observed 928 operating out of KAF, parked in the CIA hangar at the end of the runway if it wasn't taking off. This new variant has advanced battlefield imagery systems, and serves as a long-range data hub "overlord" which is why a flight path is almost routinely loops over loops over a predetermined combat sector.

sandiego89 12th Jan 2016 13:19


Drewski429 It was literally pulled straight from "celebrity row" in Tuscon after having sat there for 40 years....
Welcome Drewski, I note two long wing WB-57's and six "short wing" B-57's still at the boneyard. Is it safe to assume that these short wing aircraft are kept specifically as spares for the NASA birds? I cant' think of any other reason to keep them. Obviously the wings would be of no use for NASA, but perhaps other items.

A recent google shot showing six B-57's (and two WB's):
https://www.google.com/maps/@32.1612.../data=!3m1!1e3

Lonewolf_50 12th Jan 2016 13:29


Originally Posted by drewski429 (Post 9235689)
My internal company newsletter (DynCorp Int'l)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/nasa2e...57660882028929

I note from this link a photo of a TW-4 based T-6B Texan II. TW-4 is where I got my start flying back about 1980-81. Please check your PM's.

Martin the Martian 12th Jan 2016 13:34

I imagine the first Canberra 3-ship since the PR.9s flew into Kemble in 2006?

Valiantone 12th Jan 2016 16:42

A photo here

AMARG Part III: The Aerial View ? FighterControl ? Home to the Military Aviation Enthusiast

Shows an ex NASA bird in one of the scrapyards outside DMs perimeter. presumably held back for spares

There were three airframes flying in the late 90s and one was being used by NOAA for a while. assume it (might be) this one?

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wub 12th Jan 2016 16:45

Sandiego89:

There is a 3rd WB in that image....:8

sandiego89 12th Jan 2016 19:50


wub Sandiego89:

There is a 3rd WB in that image....:8
You mean the one by herself south of the road- down by the "737"/T-43 and the T-38's?

https://www.google.com/maps/@32.1543.../data=!3m1!1e3

She looks more complete than the other two.


I also spot another short wing B-57 on "celebrity row"

https://www.google.com/maps/@32.1709.../data=!3m1!1e3

wub 12th Jan 2016 20:20

That's the one. I could spent hours analysing this image, so many types, fascinating.

NutLoose 12th Jan 2016 22:37

Heck, when put beside a 737 it really brings home the size of that wing, in fact the overall size of the Canberra full stop, you wouldn't guess the length of one in the flesh standing beside it. What are the light trainers behind it?

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JimNtexas 12th Jan 2016 23:25

This looks to be the Air Training Command parking area except for the B-57. The 737 is probably a T-43, which was used for navigator training from about 1973 through ~2000.

The small trainers in the rear are T-37 'Tweets', which was the primary USAF pilot training aircraft for generations. These have been replaced by T-6 Texans. Off to the side are T-38s, still used for advanced pilot training..

West Coast 13th Jan 2016 00:06

Surprised to see a C20/GIII in storage. Seems like that could have life with another govt agency with hush kits.

SkyHawk-N 13th Jan 2016 06:20

Here is an up-to-date summary of what is at the Boneyard.

Nige321 13th Jan 2016 12:00

Interesting list.

Anyone know why there's a single 'Panavia Tornado' in there...??

bluetail 13th Jan 2016 12:06

The Tornado is German it was one of those based at Holloman, and there were once two in storage, the other one is now in the nearby Pima County Museum

Valiantone 13th Jan 2016 13:35

From what I recall the Germans put the pair into DM as a trial, for a few years. Although I can't remember how long it was intended to last. Or weather they really planned to put more in.

However I believe that them being in storage meant they missed some mods the rest of the German fleet got. And as a result I think the trial was eventually abandoned. In a similar DM thread on Phantoms by the poster on my other reply.

They also have an long spares recovered F-4F out there as well

As for the list of inmates even with Windows 10 and downloading the 7zip thing I can't read them!!

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Not_a_boffin 13th Jan 2016 15:12

If you just want the different types in there, use the database / current inventory / aircraft type tab.

If it's the actual frame numbers that's something else.....

Valiantone 13th Jan 2016 20:08

Its for a friend who likes the type.

Sadly we can't do MRCA anymore :{

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Two's in 2nd Aug 2020 19:18

WB-57 providing all the air-to-air shots of the Spacex Dragon capsule re-entry into the Gulf of Mexico today. Somebody thought it was a good stable high altitude platform for today's job.


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