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phantomstreaker 23rd Jul 2013 09:53

FGR2, FG1 stick tops?
 
Hi All,


Would anyone admit to owning a F4 Phantom stick top and be willing to donate it to the Wattisham Museum for XT914 please?

Sandy Parts 23rd Jul 2013 10:45

I take it you are putting staging of some sort to allow the inside of the cockpit to be seen? I ask as I know the Scottish Museum of Flight (East Fortune airfield) has a USMC F4 in their collection. Their jet has no staging etc so you cannot see into the cockpit. Perhaps they would loan you a stick top?

phantomstreaker 23rd Jul 2013 11:00

Yes, they have access steps and platform on both sides Sandy. Front cockpit has lower column but not top. same in rear as she's a twin sticker. we are also looking for MB Mk 7a ejection seat face screen handles, PSP boxes and cushions and front / rear QR boxes...anyone?

NutLoose 23rd Jul 2013 11:22

Sandy Parts, would doubt the Scottish one has one, most were pinc.... removed by crews on landing, the Jag at the museum is missing it's one, here have a 360 scroll around some of their cockpits, Jag included..

360 degree cockpit views

Stitchbitch 23rd Jul 2013 11:53

There are two slowly rotting away at Boscombe down, perhaps the owners (MoD? QinetiQ?) would let you have the stick tops? :sad:

phantomstreaker 23rd Jul 2013 12:29

Unfortunately these airframes have been sold to Everett Aero and they are awaiting removal to Bentwaters

But thanks for the ideas

Not_a_boffin 23rd Jul 2013 12:44

One assumes you're familiar with all the "survivors". If not, have a gander at the Thunder & Lightnngs website for the list and locations.

Would have thought it might be worth giving RAF Manston a bell (XV411 & ZE360) or the scrappy on the IoW (XT863). Otherwise begging letters to FAA Museum @ VL would be in order.

ORAC 23rd Jul 2013 14:12

Are they common with the Luftwaffe F4 sticks?

Since they have just retired their fleet hopefully they may have a few spare parts from those to be destroyed and not displayed?

phantomstreaker 23rd Jul 2013 14:40

Thanks for the leads

We have emailed Luftwaffe and trying other leads

NSN 1680-00-333-8923 ( A218-956679-00, G56679, MILS5210TYPEB8A, B8A, 53C4719 )
Grip Assembly, Controller, Aircraft

apparently the same for all century fighters and maybe A6 as well?

brokenlink 23rd Jul 2013 17:40

You might try looking in the 700 to see who the last pilot was. I am sure it was in there last time I looked prior to it leaving Cambridgeshire for Suffolk. Might be possible to track him down via this medium?

NutLoose 23rd Jul 2013 20:21

I own a Sabre one, they are common shapes but have different numbers on them, as for an F-4 one see

B-8-A USAF MILITARY AIRCRAFT JET FIGHTER CONTROLLER STICK GRIP F86 F100 F4 A10 | eBay

Fox Four 23rd Jul 2013 21:53

I think I've got a face screen handle somewhere, I'll have a look for you over the weekend. The dreaded loft beckons!

nipva 24th Jul 2013 10:29

FGR2 stick top
 
Yes I do. If you have not found one PM me and we can discuss further.

phantomstreaker 24th Jul 2013 12:44

Nutloose, Thanks had already seen this one and its in poor condition.

Nipva

PM sent

sycamore 24th Jul 2013 12:51

`Toom at Chattenden Barracks,Rochester..See `History/Nostalgia,,

phantomstreaker 25th Jul 2013 09:40

We now have a good lead re stick top and thanks all for your assistance.

However we are still looking for Face screen handles x 2, QRB for both seats, PSP and seat cushions plus seat and canopy pins ?

Any further ideas or items hidden away please?

Regards

Phantomstreaker

beefix 25th Jul 2013 10:45

PS
I've got two Phantom stick tops, a "normal" top made by Bendix and a HOTAS top made by Rocker Industries. I don't have the NSNs for them but I'm sure one of them will fit. They are the genuine article ( I supervised the Phantom disposal programme at RAF Wattisham in 1992) Are you interested?

Rgds BF

Scruffy Fanny 25th Jul 2013 15:03

F4 stick top
 
Hope you get one - amazed at the generosity of people well done
Think as someone said the F4 stick top is not unique to the F4 but same as several other US fighters - think there is a picture of the stick top in Haynes F4 manual ( all my own work ! ) - I've seen a few RAF FG1/ FGR2 stick tops on eBay in past couple of years fetching £2-500 - XT914 appears in my log book a few times in 1981-1984 - I think I left the rear stick in it !

AR1 25th Jul 2013 15:11

A soldier has just been jailed** for sneaking through with a gun, but it turns out between us we've got a Phantom.

Might need to keep this quiet.

** suspended for 12 months

beefix 27th Jul 2013 05:51

PS
I've got your PM. I'm very busy this weekend so I will see if I can sort out some pictures early next week. As I do not intend to make money out of this I had in mind a permanent loan basis.
Rgds
BF


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