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SOSL 20th Jul 2013 15:14

Bowling Alleys
 
In the '70s and right up to the '90s quite a few RAF Stations had bowling alleys:

St Athan; Wyton;Leuchars; Leeming; Coningsby; Akrotiri; Henlow (I think); Marham; Valley andothers.

The bowl managers all used to keep in touch with each other and they used to share information, ideas, equipment and tools, as well as organizing tournaments.

They were a bit of a secret society and they had cottoned on to the concept of sharing bestpractice at a time when that was not so fashionable as it is today.

The bowl managers were paid a pittance but they worked long, hard hours. As well as 10 pin bowling, they provided a unique, all ranks venue for all sorts of functions, drinks and in some cases eats. I can testify that at least one of the bowling alleys hosted a wedding reception. Some of them used to stage an annual barbeque and a Christmas event.

The fact is that these guys( often retired SNCOs) were underpaid and overworked but they provided a service which, at times, was central to the life of the Station.

So from me this is a salute to the RAF Station bowling managers. Let's see your stories about the bowl on your station.

Rgds SOS

Wander00 20th Jul 2013 15:21

ISTR that at least some, maybe all, were provided from grants from the Nuffield Trust for the Forces of the Crown. I remember staffing one or two applications when I was the non-Publics desk officer at Brampton in the 80s

SOSL 20th Jul 2013 15:26

Right you are Wander00. The managers were subsequently paid by the local NONPAS. My point is that they did so much for so little.

Rgds SOS

Wetstart Dryrun 20th Jul 2013 15:38

Does this count? The post has reminded me of a skittle alley up in the attic of the lean-to hangar buildings above, what used to be in the seventies, 1 sqn accommdation at Linton on Ouse.

..it was a quite magic and surreal place to pass a black-flag afternoon.

still there?

wets

SOSL 20th Jul 2013 15:55

Of course it counts!

Dunno.

Rgds SOS

SOSL 20th Jul 2013 16:01

Just remembered, back in the day, someone had to submit a case to NONPAS to increase the managers pay quite significantly when the minimum wage was introduced.

I repeat they did a brilliant job and were paid FA.

Rgds SOS

airpolice 20th Jul 2013 16:25


St Athan; Wyton;Leuchars; Leeming; Coningsby; Akrotiri; Henlow (I think); Marham; Valley andothers.
Coltishall had a nice one as well. I don't remember one at Valley.

smujsmith 20th Jul 2013 16:37

Lyneham Bowl

As a Ground Engineer, and SNCO, our arrival back at Base after a long and often arduous route or deployment (:rolleyes:), ended as we went our merry ways. Due to the make up of the crew, a mix of Officers, SNCOs and sometimes JNCOs, Airmen (SVCs and MAMS chaps) and even the lads from 47 AD, the Lyneham Bowl offered the chance to have a few beers together before "coming back to earth" so to speak. I had the good fortune to fly with several Captains, who, on return would ask if anyone would like to join him at "the bowl" for a wee beer before heading home. None of the Lyneham Messes offered a scruffs bar for all ranks. It was always a nice place to wind down, and most valued by all ranks in my opinion. In my later days, Lyneham Bowl was a great place to get our whole servicing team together to celebrate promotions etc. again a chance to informally have a laugh, get some feedback and put the world to rights, without airs and graces. I'm sure many ex Lyneham Aircrew will back up my statements here, and probably in a more lucid way.

Smudge

Martin the Martian 20th Jul 2013 17:15

There was one at Brawdy. I went to it on ATC camp back in 1985. First time I'd ever had a chance to go ten-pin bowling. I'm not much better at it now.

Wander00 20th Jul 2013 17:36

SOSL is not wrong - Bowling Alley managers were not well paid and worked very long hours ISTR. Is the Nuffield Trust still making grants?

Sun Who 20th Jul 2013 18:01

Saxa Vord
 
The skittle alley at Saxa Vord. there were some things happened in there that would have got people locked up had they been made known.

Sun.:oh:

goudie 20th Jul 2013 18:08

There was/is a bowling alley at Brize, courtesy of the USAF. Good place to take the kids or leave them to play with friends.

teeteringhead 20th Jul 2013 18:19

There was the "Rose Bowl" at RAF Aldergrove (the Station badge had a rose on it).

Don't know if it's still at JHCFS Aldergrove ......... (yes really, Joint Helicopter Command Flying Station no less ........:{)

uffington sb 20th Jul 2013 18:36

There was/is a bowling alley at Wittering, and a skittles alley on Gan.
Great all rank places, but I expect they may feature in the 'Drinking culture in the RAF .......' Thread! ;)

WhiteOvies 20th Jul 2013 18:39

Some happy memories of Hockey Club get togethers at the Bowling Alley at Wittering (still in working order as far as I know).

barnstormer1968 20th Jul 2013 18:41

Not much of a tale, but I first heard the song 'when two tribes go to war' by Farnkie goes to Hollywood in the bowling club at Wyton. I was very young and very patriotic then, and thought it should be banned as it was too anti establishment (looking back it almost sounds like I wanted a war:}).

It has taken me about twenty years to hear it as a song and nothing else :)

scarecrow450 20th Jul 2013 19:01

Cottesmore as well, many a very drunken all ranks ATC pi, er social gathering !

Easy Street 20th Jul 2013 19:02

AFAIK the Marham Bowl was closed a couple of years ago due to "health and safety concerns" because the bowling equipment was getting dated and there was no money to bring it into line with whatever standard is expected these days. This was brought about through the arrival of PAYD - because the bowl, as a food and drink outlet, had to be handed over to the contractor. Who, it seems, was not particularly interested in branching out into bowling alleys... so it's now just a bar and cafe.

NutLoose 20th Jul 2013 19:16

Yup Brizes was an impressive place, is it still on the go?, you used to struggle to get a lane in my era not being a Civilian, as they had several Civi clubs using the facilities..

Wander00 20th Jul 2013 19:52

Interesting - "had to be handed to payd contractor" -as the bowl was provided by non-public funds, which had (and probably still have) charitable status under the Charities Act, and probably grant aided by the Nuffield Trust, another charity, I am surprised they were handed over free of charge to a "contractor".

Cows getting bigger 20th Jul 2013 20:05

Don't forget the various RAFG Kegelbahn. Many a good hour spent in the one at Gutersloh.

EngAl 20th Jul 2013 21:27

We had a 2 lane 10 pin bowling alley at Gaydon in 65. Great meeting place - expect it's gone now!

4Greens 20th Jul 2013 21:29

Reference Linton on Ouse. There was a reunion some twenty odd years ago which was attended by the veterans of a Canadian Halifax squadron that was based there during the war. After a few bevies their CO suggested a game of skittles.

No alley said the Groupie - up in the roof said the Canucks. They had built one in the roof during the war. None of us knew about it. It has now been opened up with a drop down ladder to look at it.

fergineer 20th Jul 2013 22:04

Was 2 I/C Lyneham lanes as a secondary duty. As Smuj says a great place for all ranks to have a drink.

Al R 20th Jul 2013 22:18

I have many happy memories of Wittering Bowl.. not forgetting the Mally there of ourselves - and the Rugby club. Also, Leconfield.. that had a good bowling alley.

The best though, Greenham Common. Introduced to it 30 years ago this month.

November4 20th Jul 2013 22:36

Lyneham bowl....the place I was introduced to alcohol. Didn't drink till I joined up and reached my first posting at Lyneham. In those days, the entire shift would hit the bowl on swing shift. Out of the Wessex after tea straight into the Bowl. Work hard, play hard was certainly the ethos then. I think there was some throwing balls at wooden things but never took part myself as the bar was far more interesting.

Being propped up against the juke box as the soberest man tried to round up the shift and herd them back to the block.

Sending the juniorest lad to the NAAFI on bop nights with some money then when the bowl shut heading up the road to continue drinking the beers waiting for you.

and many other hazy memories...

Fishtailed 20th Jul 2013 22:54

Bowling Alleys
 
RAF Weeton, 8 SOTT, had one 1960ish, four lanes, my dad showed me round 'this American idea' while it was closed, (he was a civvi worker, out of bounds)

Tashengurt 21st Jul 2013 04:34

Leuchars bowl was a strange place. Full of locals with odd wrist guards on high fiving each other.
It was the home turf of two particularly large sisters too!


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im from uranus 21st Jul 2013 06:50

Wildenrath Bowl was also a good place for an all ranks get together. I remember one night me and a mate went for a few games, ended up having quite a few Wobbly's and tried to play a whole game like the 'pro's'. We managed to swerve the ball quite well considering our state and scored more than we had the previous 'more sober' games! Never been able to repeat it since, the ball just heads straight to the gutter! :p

AGS Man 21st Jul 2013 07:49

I remember some great all ranks gatherings in Cottesmore Bowl. IIRC it used to be a parachute packing shop before conversion to a 4 lane bowling alley. Honington was bowl-less but a quick drive up to Lakenheath was no problem followed by a few drinks in the NCO's Club.

haltonapp 21st Jul 2013 08:07

There was a two lane bowling alley near the swimming pool and the Malcom Club in Muharraq in 68. No automatics, just locals to replace the pins! They were too quick to get hit!

November4 21st Jul 2013 08:14

Gib had a similar bowling alley - 2 lanes and 1 man to sort the pins out. He had to be quick to get back to safety by sitting on the dividing wall before the next ball was launched at him.

NutLoose 21st Jul 2013 08:22

I never realised so many bases had them, considering that off station there were so few about, it surprised me.

glad rag 21st Jul 2013 08:35

Sadly NutLoose, another of those little items that make life good on a station that are slowly dying a death.

Avionker 21st Jul 2013 09:32


There was one at Brawdy. I went to it on ATC camp back in 1985. First time I'd ever had a chance to go ten-pin bowling. I'm not much better at it now.
This was not actually on the RAF camp, it was a USN facility for NAVFAC personnel, which was also open to the RAF and their families. I remember the Chili Dogs well....

Ah glorious Brawdy, the best station I ever had the fortune to serve on. Four years of working less than a third of each year, on Seakings that were actually less then a decade old then.The same airframes still going strong now I believe.

Cosford had a Bowling alley last time I was there, about ´94 or so. Unfortunately it didn't exist when I did my trade training there, between ´84 and ´86.

denachtenmai 21st Jul 2013 09:46

The 4 lane one at Wyton in the 60's had a good bar as well, which was a godsend to a certain MB, who was banned from the pigs bar for some mischief concerning the cops:eek:
It also stayed open later than the Naafia;)
Regards, Den

Not a Crew Chief 21st Jul 2013 17:08

Brize bowl still going strong with a large number of civvies (including me) making up the 4 nights a week league teams. Recently refurbished and employing a full time manager and staff who are not ex SNCO's or indeed RAF of any description.
Was very lucky in my time to have bowled at Brize, Witttering, Laarbruch Scampton and again at Brize. First picked up a ball at Jardines in Aylesbury and still have the cup we won in my "things I collected over 30 years" box.
Scampton Bowl was the preferred night shift watering hole before duty supper as the F/S down to the FLM's could all drink together or be kept an eye on.

AFAIK there are still full RAF championships, and there was a postal league with a legitimate way to spend Thursday afternoons improving your handicap as you were "representing the station".

Chugalug2 21st Jul 2013 17:41

There was a bowling alley at Fairford, courtesy of the USAF. Unfortunately when they quit the base HM Customs informed them that if they left it intact, even if it were for HM Forces, then previously waived import duty would be payable. So they didn't leave it intact...

C4IONMYPC 21st Jul 2013 18:16

One at RAF St Mawgan
 
There was a bowling alley for USN and Marines and UK personnel based at RAF St Mawgan at the married quarters patch at St Eval. It was next to the Westwings all ranks club. I know because I was the manager there after the manager that was running it got posted. There was a meeting each year to share the "profits" which was not a lot as the upkeep of the bowl was quite expensive, especially when you had to get the lanes resurfaced as they were made of wood that was dressed with oil on a daily basis, not like they are nowadays and are made of laminate. :ok:

NutLoose 21st Jul 2013 18:28

Chuga, similar happened at Brize i think upon USAF departure, contents of furnished quarters were bulldozed in a pit as they would have reqd duty paying... How the Bowl survived I do not know..


NaCC,

Glad to see it still is going strong, no doubt the Civi element taking a major role in that and ensuring it is permanently busy.


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