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NutLoose 16th Jul 2013 12:43

Worrying Korean development
 
see

Panama president tweets picture of North Korea 'missiles' ship

Lonewolf_50 16th Jul 2013 13:53

The news story I read this morning indicated that Panama was looking for drugs, and found missile parts. Also said Captain of Korean ship attempted to commit suicide. :confused: A bit confusing, that last bit.

downsizer 16th Jul 2013 14:47

Parts have been ID'd as being from an RSN-75 radar system....

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=RS...w=1366&bih=598

Fareastdriver 16th Jul 2013 16:05

They are probably bits to replace panels on their parade missiles that have rusted away. I cannot see SA 2 missiles making one iota of difference to NK military capabilities.

glad rag 16th Jul 2013 19:56

If they can light up then they need to be taken out.

Decoys perhaps?

Tiger_mate 17th Jul 2013 05:38

Two Mig 21 bis and 15 engines also found according to the BBC. Dilutes the charade of the missiles being sent for repair and return a little.

Buster Hyman 17th Jul 2013 05:59

Ok, so that's a RSN-75, two Mig21's, and assorted engines. I'll throw in Michael Jacksons Thriller album and a12 month subscription to Xbox Live for free.

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/MSNBC/Co...otoblog900.jpg

Cows getting bigger 17th Jul 2013 06:28

:ok:

Yes, I don't see this little shopping trip as something that will shift the balance of power.

Dysonsphere 17th Jul 2013 07:10

Yes but how many have been missed I wonder.

sisemen 17th Jul 2013 09:00

The guy at the back of that pic has obviously been demoted to the back of the food queue along with all the other non-privileged citizens.

TEEEJ 17th Jul 2013 10:47

The Cubans have issued a statement and revealed that two MiG-21s were also part of the cargo.

North Korean ship seized in Panama Canal carried suspected missile-system components - The Washington Post


Late Tuesday, the Cuban Foreign Ministry said in a statement that the ship was carrying 240 metric tons of “obsolete defensive weapons” to be repaired in North Korea and returned to Cuba. It listed the weapons as two Volga and Pechora antiaircraft missile systems, nine missiles “in parts and spares,” two Mig-21 aircraft and 15 engines for the planes — “all of it manufactured in the mid-twentieth century.”

Bevo 17th Jul 2013 13:50

Doesn’t look like Cuba has much “modern” military hardware to provide. It's interesting that the MiG-21s are part of "defensive weapons".


Late Tuesday, the Cuban Foreign Ministry said in a statement that the ship was carrying 240 metric tons of “obsolete defensive weapons” to be repaired in North Korea and returned to Cuba. It listed the weapons as two Volga and Pechora antiaircraft missile systems, nine missiles “in parts and spares,” two Mig-21 aircraft and 15 engines for the planes — “all of it manufactured in the mid-twentieth century.”
washingtonpost.com

Heathrow Harry 17th Jul 2013 14:49

no-one ever used a Mig21 for strike purposes unless they had nothing else

Bevo 17th Jul 2013 18:40

Humm. Interesting. So there is no such thing as offensive air-to-air missions?

Fareastdriver 17th Jul 2013 19:56

Had a quiet Google around North Korea:

Here's a nice bunch of IL28/J5s

http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/e...psc886e822.jpg

And a line of MIG 17/J5s


http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/e...psbff9e3a5.jpg

Heathrow Harry 18th Jul 2013 09:53

all nicely lined up (apart from the slacker in the upper picture far right)

one pass will take them all out...................

Agaricus bisporus 18th Jul 2013 10:12

I wonder how many of them actually work?

Epsilon minus 19th Jul 2013 13:51


Also said Captain of Korean ship attempted to commit suicide
After realizing he was meant to pass through the Suez Canal.

500N 19th Jul 2013 14:05

I see Panama has endeared itself to Cuba and NK by charging the ships
screw with various things.

GreenKnight121 19th Jul 2013 18:27

Buster Hyman... in regards to the pic you posted:
Dennis Rodman: Consider me for Nobel Peace Prize - CBS News


Dennis Rodman, who was voted NBA Defensive Player of the Year twice during his Hall of Fame Career, says he deserves consideration for another honor: Nobel Peace Prize. In an interview with Sports Illustrated, the fierce rebounder-turned-gentle-diplomat said his "mission is to break the ice between hostile countries."

Rodman famously visited North Korea in February and sat next to Kim Jong Un - a diehard basketball fan - as they watched an exhibition game. The trip irked the U.S. government at a time of escalating tensions between Pyongyang and Washington.

"Why it's been left to me to smooth things over, I don't know. Dennis Rodman, of all people," said the former NBA forward, who tallied 212 technical fouls in his NBA career. "But I'll tell you this: If I don't finish in the top three for the next Nobel Peace Prize, something's seriously wrong."

Rodman also told the magazine that he plans to go back to North Korea in August to visit Kim - a.k.a. his "friend for life."

"I'm just gonna chill, play some basketball and maybe go on vacation with Kim and his family," Rodman said.

In May, Rodman attempted to leverage his relationship with Kim, calling on the North Korean leader to release Kenneth Bae, a Korean-American sentenced to 15 years of hard labor in the North.

So far, Kim has not granted that request. If he does, maybe Rodman could win the Nobel after all.
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