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Rigex 4th Jul 2013 13:18

Daughters v Sons
 
Robert Hardman has an article in today's (4. July) Daily Mail (I know, I know) in which he postualtes that Wills & Kate will have a daughter. This is based on the fact(?) that Wills flies helos, and helo pilots have a far greater ratio of daughters to sons. Apparently its not only helo pilots, but aviators generally.
Any comments from you magnificent men...?

Thomas coupling 4th Jul 2013 13:44

I heard about this phenomenon many years ago by an American helo driver colleague of mine. He said that 'most' men helo drivers have as their first born - a girl...wait for it....due to the vibrations experienced from flying helo's for all those years and the effect those vibes have on the sperm count???

I have a girl first born, he does and about 70% of those I can think off - the same :eek:

OafOrfUxAche 4th Jul 2013 13:55


I have a girl first born, he does and about 70% of those I can think off - the same
Probably because 70% of helicopter pilots are wet and should have tried harder at school. Different story in the FJ world:ok:

Wander00 4th Jul 2013 14:00

ISTR that was said of Javelin aircrew

teeteringhead 4th Jul 2013 14:06

Works for me - one Son-and-Heir sandwiched (chronologically) between two Teeterettes.

Heard it many times before and there does seem to be something in it - if anything 70% seems an underestimate. As for 70% being "wet", can he mean sarbuoys?? ;) Not that many surely

As for "trying harder at school", I think it was AT school that I last heard "wet" used as an insult ........ :ok: But then I'm only a helicopter pilot - and a Grammar School Oik to boot .....

Two's in 4th Jul 2013 14:28


Probably because 70% of helicopter pilots are wet and should have tried harder at school. Different story in the FJ world
You mean they are all gay and don't have any children?

Wensleydale 4th Jul 2013 14:40

If a population is to survive, then it is beneficial to produce more female offspring if the environment deteriorates - more females to males can increase population size quicker once the environmental factors are favourable again.

Flying in aircraft is not a benign environment.... there are many theories whether it is lower levels of oxygen, lower pressure, lower temperatures, an environment rich in electromagnetic waves, or even more applications of "G" that produce the hostile environment. It is also thought that the "male" carrying sperm of the father are not as vigorous as the "female" carrying sperm when subjected to the hostile environment - the result is a propensity for daughters.

Moral of the story.... if you are aircrew, and you want to improve your chances of having a son, then do not fly in the days before conception. (The second bang after the door closes following a detachment will get you a daughter).

W (with 2 x daughters, no sons and over 9,000 hours airborne).

BEagle 4th Jul 2013 14:56

Remember the old saying?

"Fighter pilots always have daughters.............



..................................................................and I've just had yours!"

:E

Fox3WheresMyBanana 4th Jul 2013 15:18

Twice as many daughters than sons for the aircrew on the FJ outfits I've been on. It's a well recognised phenomenon. Deep sea divers have more daughters too.

High_Expect 4th Jul 2013 15:29

Many hours sitting behind an AI24 and in FJ in general here. Two boys with a third on the way. I call B******t.

500N 4th Jul 2013 15:29

I wonder if Adrenalin has anything to do with it ?


And if the same situation occurs say, in Racing car drivers
or other sports where some or all of the factors mentioned
come into play ?

NutLoose 4th Jul 2013 16:33

I heard you were more likely to have Daughters if you suffer from premature ejaculation, so all of this makes sense now....

langleybaston 4th Jul 2013 16:34

and the more accurate sort of met man:

3 to 1 in my case.

All that drawing isobars and associating with aircrew.

Herod 4th Jul 2013 17:03

500N. I've heard that it does apply to racing drivers as well, and someone has already mentioned deep-sea divers. I always translated it as : real men have daughters. (two of, 39 years an aviator)

albatross 4th Jul 2013 17:06

That's just God getting revenge on us all and having a good laugh too!

Wwyvern 4th Jul 2013 17:15

Teeteringhead

Not only a helicopter pilot, but a gentleman as well. I always THOUGHT you were Cranwell-trained.

I heard the "fighter pilot - daughter" thing whilst on Hunters in 1960.

matkat 4th Jul 2013 17:36

3 daughters to one son so guess its true:)

Sun Who 4th Jul 2013 18:13

Science and stuff
 
For anyone interested in the science behind this, it's a (sort of) well understood phenomenon, usually ascribed to the fact that aviators are exposed to slightly higher levels of non-ionising radiation than the general population.
For the insomniacs amongst you: The sex ratios of offspring of people exposed to non-ionising radiation. provides a perspective.

Yours in science,

Sun.:ok:

kintyred 4th Jul 2013 19:09

7000+ hrs on helos.....3 sons. I must be exceptional!

smujsmith 4th Jul 2013 19:15

Kintyred,

Nah, you must be "all shook up":eek:

Smudge


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