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FODPlod 5th May 2013 23:39

RN air ace is first Brit in US Top Guns
 
Bearing in mind that the FAA inspired the Miramar set-up during the Vietnam war (link), is this really the first Brit to do this?

Originally Posted by The Sun 5 May 2013

ROYAL Navy fighter pilot Stephen Collins is to become the first Briton to train as a Tom Cruise-style Top Gun.

Lieutenant Collins, 27, was picked after impressing while he served on aircraft carrier USS Stennis.

His piloting skills flying sorties over Afghanistan caught the eye of American Navy top brass, who offered him a place on the world’s most exclusive fighter pilot course...


54Phan 6th May 2013 00:02

Well it is The Sun, the home of Page 3 girls. I do not think they get Top Gun.

Finningley Boy 6th May 2013 02:10

How very "The Sun" the whole passage reads like a comment on an X Factor contestant. I wonder if Stephen will be lucky enough to be mentored by Tom at some stage?

FB

deltahotel 6th May 2013 02:14

Or, well done fella! Wish I was that good.

500N 6th May 2013 02:15

Mentored by Tom ?

I am sure he would much prefer being mentored by Kelly :O


Question for those in the know. They mentioned he has already
been on exchange for 5 years and with this course likely to be
more.

This seems an incredibly long time for an OS exchange.

WhiteOvies 6th May 2013 02:58

500N- it's an investment in the future. Seedcorn guys have been told to expect similar timeframes. By the time training on type is complete there is then still a useful period of return of service. They're not seen as one off 'exchange' type tours.

Eventually I would expect Lt Collins to get an F-35 slot at Eglin (which is the point of keeping a group of fixed wing trained FAA pilots), hence extending his time in the US even further.

There are RN and RAF engineers who have been working on F-35 in the US for nearly 5 years now.

500N 6th May 2013 03:03

OK, thanks :ok:

I did see the ref to the future UK carriers.

Finningley Boy 6th May 2013 03:04

deltahotel

It does say he will be trained in the Tom Cruise style, so does that mean he'll be shown how fly with his oxygen mask constantly trailing off the side of his helmet and how to tap frantically at cockpit instruments when trouble arises.

Otherwise, The Sun's cringeworthy headlining and reporting format and style apart, yes I'm sure he is a thoroughly adept individual behind the wheel... Sorry control column.

FB

Runaway Gun 6th May 2013 04:23

Well done that man, I bet his father is very proud.

Wholigan 6th May 2013 05:33

I know a Brit who spent several days at Navy Miramar taking part in the "1 versus many" scenarios of Top Gun, where about 60 aircraft were involved and anybody who was not "your type" was an enemy. That was back in about 1975/76.

But of course that wasn't the whole course.

CoffmanStarter 6th May 2013 07:02

Well done young man :D:D:D:D

GreenKnight121 6th May 2013 07:38

FODPlod... he is the first to be accepted as a student.

The ones you refer to in your "link" helped create the course... therefore they were instructors, not students.

ricardian 6th May 2013 09:00

A bit of history. FltLt Peter Maillard and his team (i.e. yours truly) won the FAC phase of BULLSEYE69 at RDAF Skrydstrup in 1969, beating teams from Denmark, Italy, Germany & USA. Smoke markers were prohibited but the Danish team tried using a flare which just happened to produce a lot of smoke; the flare was attached to their 3-tonner and set fire to the canvas tilt!

SASless 6th May 2013 09:16

Flying American Aircraft in an American Squadron from an American Carrier...then off to an American Top Gun School....if he marries and American....there might be a place for him in the American Navy.

Only question really is how he became an "Ace"?

Is he related to Sharkey?

FODPlod 6th May 2013 09:44


Originally Posted by GreenKnight121

FODPlod... he is the first to be accepted as a student.

The ones you refer to in your "link" helped create the course... therefore they were instructors, not students.

Granted so even more surprising that it has taken 50 years for a Brit to be invited on the course.


Originally Posted by SASless

...Is he related to Sharkey?

No, that's Kris. However, he is the son of retired Sqn Ldr Pete Collins, Flight International's UK test pilot, so he appears to be another 'chip off the old block':

Eclectic 6th May 2013 10:00

Top Gun at Mirimar was created by graduates on exchange from the intense Air Warfare Instructors school in Lossiemouth, Scotland.

The original instigators included Lt Commander Dick Lord, Lt Cdr Paul Waterhouse and Cdr Doug Macdonald.

P6 Driver 6th May 2013 10:40

As if the course wasn't demanding enough to start with, the'll probably make him "oil up" and play volleyball half naked as well.

Finnpog 6th May 2013 11:34

Congratulations Mr Collins.
:ok:

seadrills 6th May 2013 21:13

Well done Jumper - good flying pal

Jayand 7th May 2013 11:19

27 and he's been there five years? Does that sound feasible?


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